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George and Cindy Anthony’s home is in foreclosure. Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda–Oh the choices we make!

February 23, 2010

Documents filed Monday in Orange Circuit Court show that the Bank of America is foreclosing on George and Cindy Anthony’s long time home at 4937  Hopespring Drive.  The records show that they bought their house in 1989 for $90,900 and they now owe between $50,000 and $249,000.  (wow, that’s a big range!)

Here’s a link to the foreclosure documents: LINK

I guess that answers the question of whether the Anthonys’ money train has run out.  It must have dried up a long time ago if they are in foreclosure, because that doesn’t happen overnight.   I seriously doubt they would let their home slip through their fingers if they had a choice.  It also adds new fuel to the rumors that Casey Anthony’s defense is facing some serious money woes.

No matter what you might think of George and Cindy Anthony, it’s all very sad isn’t it?  I wonder if things would be dramatically different for them right now if they had, early on,  focused on truth and justice for their granddaughter no matter where or to what that truth led them?  I really believe that’s the direction George Anthony first took, but when he came to that proverbial fork  in the road–well, we all know that in the end they both chose to walk a very different path.   And,  in spite of her best efforts, it doesn’t look like Cindy is going to get her demon daughter back. .  It appears that turning away from Caylee to save Casey has all been for naught.

Of course, nothing the Anthonys’ might or might not have done could bring Caylee back, but they could have found some remnant of normalcy and sense of purpose  in their lives  if they had done things differently. Hindsight is 20/20, but it’s so painfully obvious that  if they had stepped away from the glare of the spotlight, wiped the dollar signs from their eyes, and instead  quietly and diligently sought the truth, they certainly wouldn’t have become the most recognizable and reviled grandparents of a murdered child in America.  If they had sought out good people like the Kesses’, Marc Klaas, and John Walsh, instead of the Dennis and Sherry Milsteads’ of the world, what would their lives be like now?  Sure, their granddaughter would still be  dead, their daughter would still be a festering boil in a jail cell, and their lives would still be forever changed–but, maybe not lying in ruins around them.

The old saying, “When God closes a door, he always opens a window”  is only partially true, I think.  He opens several–and then allows us to chose which one to go through.  I believe the Anthony family generated a lot of money from the media outlets as well as from sympathetic strangers when their story first surfaced. What they did with that money was, in the end, their choice.  George and Cindy Anthony could have taken the tragic loss of their granddaughter and turned it into something that would not only have honored Caylee,  but also could have helped other children like her and families like theirs.  They could have chosen to help push through what appears to be the now defunct, Caylee’s Law, or to educate families with children like Casey as to how they might avoid similar fates.  They could have found a purpose and a peace that they obviously don’t have.  At the very least they would be employable today, and more people would be apt to help them out of their current crisis.  That’s not the window they chose.

If Casey set out to deliberately destroy her family by doing away with Caylee, the news of her parent’s foreclosure must make her smile.  It’s one more nail in the family coffin.  It’s been said that what goes around comes around, (It’s a mystery to me why I’m so full of cliche’s today) and if that is true, Casey better brace herself–the Karma that just got her mom and dad is coming her way with a vengeance.  She may be slow in coming, but she’s definitely coming.

Better watch out, Casey!  We all know Karma.  She’s a bitch with a memory, and though it may be later than sooner now that the trial has been further delayed, she’s still comin’ to get you, girl!

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152 Comments leave one →
  1. mikka permalink
    February 23, 2010 11:01 am

    zanaidas witnesslist out,for the trial! :smile:

    http://www.wftv.com/news/22644246/detail.html

    Thanks, mikka! I’ll check it out. And things for the link about the foreclosure as well!

  2. mikka permalink
    February 23, 2010 11:02 am

    what a bunch of loosers,the anthonys blame another people again,better she go off on her lazy a$$ and find a job!my parents learn me,when you WILL find a job,you get one,no matter what! :wink:

    I was raised the same way, mikka!

  3. Hilde permalink
    February 23, 2010 11:26 am

    mystery~~ great Post!
    like You mentioned “Hindsight is 20/20″
    I am definitely no fan of the Anthony’s, at the same time I do have Compassion
    for what they had and still are going through.
    The fact is any one who doesn’t make their house payments for a long period of time will loose their home, no matter who they are. Matter of fact sometimes it doesn’t have to be a long time it could be just about 2 or 3 month of neglecting to make a payment. Cindy and George had to know that.
    They made a lot of not so good Choices and now they have to take the Consequences for their Actions. I don’t wish for any one to have to go through what they have went through but again it comes back to the Choices they made
    after their Grand daughter was murdered. I also believe it could have had a different outcome if the Anthony’s would only have stuck to the truth and used their sad Experience to help others. It would have been a good Idea to make sure that whatever Money they made by selling Pictures and going on Talk Shows to use part of it to make their House Payments. Again it was their Choice and no one else could tell them how to live their Life’s but there are Consequences for every Decision we make in Life and the Anthony’s are no Exception. Very sad Situation all way around. I also believe it really doesn’t matter what they have tried to do for their Daughter Casey, she will have to pay the Price for what has been done to her Daughter Caylee Marie! JMO

    Hilde– I agree with you about how it would have been a good idea to pay their house payment–especially before they purchased such things as tattoos, diamond studs, and cruises…..

    Yes, we all have to make decisions, and we all have to live with those decisions once they are made. Most of us learn from the wrong ones and make better ones down the road. The Anthonys’ could still learn from their mistakes if they wanted to. They could if they would and they should—-but, I have a sneaking suspicion that they won’t.

  4. lona1 permalink
    February 23, 2010 11:32 am

    Karma is a bitch with a memory…..well said!!!!!
    they know that lawsuits against them are in the making like slander and what not. Another ploy for sympathy from the public!
    The church will get them out of forclosure…hm….780×9=…plus atty fee and court cost…yeah….10,000 will get them out of it. Someone needs to check if they attend services on Sundays…..crying and sobbing. Yep, I think the church will come to their ‘rescue’.

    Did they ever attend the church they had the vigils at regularly? I think it was the preacher at that church that visited Casey in jail and then made his way into the National Enquirer?

    I don’t know lona1–$10,000 is a lot of money for a church to give them, but you are right. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone steps up and rescues them.

  5. lona1 permalink
    February 23, 2010 11:34 am

    maybe Baez told them to let the house go and move so a future jury can’t tour the house and the backyard where the deomp was found.

    Where’s the mysterious family that was funding the defense? Surely they could part with a measley $10,000 to keep the parents of their girl, Casey, off the streets.

  6. lona1 permalink
    February 23, 2010 11:40 am

    WOW and wow
    64 witnesses for the civil suit.

    Whoa!

  7. Kim permalink
    February 23, 2010 12:10 pm

    Very well stated, Mystery and very much what I was thinking myself. Thank you for putting it so eloquently

    Tanky, Kim. I like your avatar!!

  8. LVSusie permalink
    February 23, 2010 12:28 pm

    Something doesnt set right with me on the foreclosure, it says they stopped paying there payments on June 1st, none of this had started then and Cinday and George were both working. When Cindy was at the bond hearing she said she would she didnt tell them that she had stopped making the payments to her house. Something is fishy!

    Sounds like they just decided not to pay it. Perhaps it really is a play for sympathy.

  9. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 23, 2010 12:49 pm

    Hi! I’ve responded in the comment boxes!!

  10. Kim permalink
    February 23, 2010 12:54 pm

    Thanks, Mystrey – that is Bub, my soon to 5 yr old grandson – he wants to be a football star like his Daddy

    Bub’s really cute in his jersey!

  11. February 23, 2010 1:05 pm

    mystery, something is “sinky” here. i believe that this is a contrived plan of sindy and i also believe it will benefit george and her in the end. maybe it has something to do with z’s lawsuit? who know what goes on in that conniving “mind”? i do believe, however, that IF they were to sell it, the led would be able to go in with a search warrant and really do some in depth investigation. imo, i do not believe this is what it seems, because we are dealing with an unusual genetic pool. lol could be, they think the house will sell for mega bucks, due to the sensationalism of precious caylee’s murder. i am not buying this “we can’t afford to pay the mortgage story.”

    You may be on to something, midget. Apparently Leonard Padilla is thinking about helping them out–but Brad Conway has refused it. Must not be too desperate.

  12. February 23, 2010 1:14 pm

    Hi Mystery and everyone, hmmmm, when it comes to the Anthony’s i am always suspicious. Lee supposedly had moved in with them and he had a job so looks like he could have been helping with mortgage payments. Maybe they should fire bozo and the dream/scream team and tell Casey she is getting a public defender. Perhaps the crooked Milstead’s could sell that bass SS Caylee Marie boat and put that money in the pot. Oh i know maybe ole Leonard will pay it off for them, that is if he has any money left after paying for cars and such for Misty’s family.

    Great write up Mystery and i love the karma part. so right on.

    Hey knight owl! Thanks. You are one smart cookie! Apparently Leonard IS thinking about helping them out—but Brad C. says no way.

  13. February 23, 2010 1:17 pm

    Hi ya kim, Bub is a handsome boy. I think he will make a perfect football player. Thanks for the link. I am going up to read it now.

  14. Molly permalink
    February 23, 2010 1:24 pm

    LVSusie – they stoped paying in June 2009, not 2008 when caylee went missing.
    I’m not buying any of this either. what happened to the thousands of dollars received from 48 hrs? that was probably paid to them last year, why not pay the mortgage? you don’t need 2 cars (at least 1 with a loan) when neither person is not working! They also chose to go on a cruise & get tattoo’s! I think there’s some reason behind this, whether it be sympathy, thinking someone might step in & pay it or some other plan.

    Remember, they filed bankruptcy & left a house in Ohio too before going to FL. they know what they’re doing.

    I think they’ve just chosen not to pay the house payments for some reason or another. Maybe they DO want someone to feel sorry for them and pay off the mortgage–

  15. arttart permalink
    February 23, 2010 1:26 pm

    knight owl, I think due to the laws & oversight, the ANT’s aren’t in a position to sell the S S Caylee Marie as the Foundation actually owns it. It is not the personal property of the Anthony’s, although we all know it was bought for their personal use. It will not be easy for them to liquidate it without “accounting for it,” LOL, who would buy it?

    This story really burns me up. The ANT’s have had a previous foreclosure, they have had a previous Bankruptcy, they were “only able to purchase the house because they took up the payments & financing of the previous owner, as they would not have been able to get credit then. The ANT’s will not be able to even “rent” for what their payment is, they will “never qualify” for any type of loan for another house in this economy, I am just outraged at their irresponsibility & arrogance.

    imo, when Conman said “he would work with the Bank to save the foreclosure,” that means “get ready for another Media Blitz & more licensing fees,” as a fast way to generate more liquid cash. With the trial a year away, wonder what their plan is? I realize since the Anthony’s feel an “entitlement,” I guess they thought they were “above foreclosure.” YEP! Bet that mortgage company is still “smarting from the Cruise photos.” What goobers.

    good points arttart. The Anthonys’ have never been fiscally responsible and it looks like nothing has changed in that department. Very foolish, IMO.

  16. Molly permalink
    February 23, 2010 1:27 pm

    This is just my opinion, but I don’t think the anthony’s are paying baez. I don’t think they are involved in that at all, casey made the payment deal with him & don’t think the ant’s are helping with that at all. jmo

    I don’t think they are either, really. But I do think they spend beyond their means and for some reason thought it was ok to stop paying their house payments. If Lee is still living with them and moved in to help with expenses–where exactly did that money go? Utilities?

  17. Spacely permalink
    February 23, 2010 1:29 pm

    Looks like they owe about $115k.

    I’m thinking if they pawn the boat for $20k, Bank of America will let them stay.

    Alternatively, at $1 per ball, if Jose would volunteer to be the main attraction at a dunk tank set up in the front yard, they could pay off the house by early afternoon and fund the defense through the end of the trial by dinnertime. Throw in a few hours from Lyons, and they may be able to close before lunch.

    :lol: :lol: :lol: I’d pay a buck fifty!

  18. February 23, 2010 1:33 pm

    Hi Arttart, i was joking about the boat. lol. We know they could never sell it as it was purchased for the fraudation foundation i call it, as it is for missing children remember? lol. I just cannot get serious when it comes to the Ant’s.

  19. Molly permalink
    February 23, 2010 1:36 pm

    artart – i agree, i think this a sympathy move & prolly will end up on tv trying to generate more cash.
    their monthly payment is just under 800.00. cindy is getting disability & lee is living there to help with finances. they’ve made money from their “appearances”, it’s very hard to believe they couldn’t pay that.

    didn’t the milsteads just lose their home, but then shortly after started a new foundation involving a home for something???// hmmmmm

    I wonder how the Milsteads’ new foundation (I think it was for wayward teen girls or something like that?) is playing out for them? I’ll have to check around…..

  20. February 23, 2010 1:36 pm

    Molly, i agree with you the Ant’s are not paying Baez. Casey was 22 at the time and an adult and she hired him not G&C so it would not be the parents debt.

  21. Molly permalink
    February 23, 2010 1:38 pm

    Spacely – LOL! Good one!!! hahahahahhaha

  22. February 23, 2010 1:38 pm

    Spacely, totally love your idea on how Baez could generate money for the Ant’s. lmho at that one.

  23. February 23, 2010 1:47 pm

    Guys you know we have all been expecting Cindy to do her version of ”Under the microscope” as she has never be able to let George get one up on her, (remember she had to add she wrote a suicide letter to but didn’t execute it”?, Well now i see Cindy asking the media to allow her to read her pitiful under Cindy’s Microscope, We have been living a nitemare as all of the viewer’s know and now we cannot believe the audacity of ”Bank Of America” wanting to throw us out on the street just because we have missed a payment or two, or how many was it George?, oh never mind you wouldn’t know, i can say it was truly not that many payments , so where is the compassion? I mean this is America isn’t it?

    George and Cindy could both work minimum wage jobs and manage an 800. a month house payment. (how the heck did Cindy manage to get disability? I know several people on disability and it took them years to get it and they were obviously in need–unlike Cindy.) That ticks me off. She could work. George could work. Instead they let the taxpayers pay for them to do nothing. Grrrr!

    I think I might toss my cookies if Cindy sits in front of a camera and reads her version of George’s essay.

  24. Jon permalink
    February 23, 2010 1:55 pm

    Maybe they got wind of the fact that someone might be getting ready to sue them for defamation and this is the first step to (another) bankruptcy (didn’t they have one before they came to Florida?) so that no one will be able to get their hands on anything they might have. I don’t trust them any more than I trust Casey…… They both look pretty able bodied to me; go find jobs like the rest of us.

    You may have hit the nail on the head, Jon. And I agree about jobs. Go to work!

  25. Molly permalink
    February 23, 2010 1:56 pm

    knight – this is definitely a sympathy role, ploy & the next national tv interview with pictures of Caylee everywhere & a tear fest.
    The money they made from 48 hrs (part of 20,000) was after June & lets not forget George’s “letter” he sold to the media. What happened to all of that money???

    It went to pay for tattoos and jewelry and fancy dinners and cruises!

  26. Kim permalink
    February 23, 2010 2:00 pm

    Hiya Knight!! So good to see you! and TY – mI think he is a very handsome boy as well

    This whole mortgage thing has me wondering – what could they possibly gain?

    I LOVE the water dunking plan! I will gather as many $1 as I can find!!

  27. February 23, 2010 2:23 pm

    Molly, exactly. I am sure Conway is all over this one with the Bank to work out their keeping the house while in the meantime i expect G&C are thinking some kind soul will step up and pay it off for them now it has been put out on the media for all to know about.

  28. Spacely permalink
    February 23, 2010 2:24 pm

    Hmm…what can they gain…what can they gain???

    What if a certain foundation that already operates from the premise is able to negotiate a deal with the bank for the property as a means of avoiding foreclosure? And if the foundation owned it, maybe all operating costs could be written off as losses. And the directors drawing salaries would not have to pay a mortgage as the foundation would pay that… with tax free dollars.

    Or lets say they move all the way into bankruptcy… seems to me that would not affect them a whole lot cause they have already done it before… and George would never actually have to pay for that huge gambling/internet Nigerian bank scam/escort financial loss cause seems to me its already wrapped up in the mortgage as the amount they owe is significantly more than the amount for which they purchased the house – so they refinanced and borrowed more money at least once.

    I also notice there is some kind of realty insurance company in the mess which seems to own about $25k worth of the house… or maybe the Ants owe them $25k… it’s not clear to me, but perhaps there is some kind of insurance pay-off issue and this is the Ants way of forcing the insurance company and mortgage company to work it out.

    So, wow. Looks like they stand to gain way more than if they just paid their $800 a month payts. The first 2 scenarios would put them way ahead of the game.

  29. February 23, 2010 2:26 pm

    Kim, so good to see you too, thanks. Your question what could the Anthony’s possibly gain? My guess would be the hope someone will pay their home off for them due to their plight the way they tell it of course. That is all i can come up with.

  30. Kim permalink
    February 23, 2010 2:28 pm

    Spacely – thanks for taking time to respond to me – I feel there is something underneath all of this. It might be possible for the ‘foundation’ to negotiate for the property. Actually, that seems quite probable to me.

  31. February 23, 2010 2:30 pm

    Spacely, Excellent observation. you could be on to something. hmmm.

  32. Kim permalink
    February 23, 2010 2:31 pm

    I also feel as if it is a ploy for sympathy – poor me, My grand baby is dead and my daughter in jail now my house being taken away by the big mean bank…

    ew

  33. February 23, 2010 2:31 pm

    bbl.

  34. arttart permalink
    February 23, 2010 2:44 pm

    knightowl, DUH! LOL! I get it! I was a little slow today! LOL! Lots of good ideas as to “why any couple could be so stupid, but well, they are the Anthony’s.” I have enjoyed what everybody has shared & absolutely everything is “plausible.”

    I read Orlando Papers & I’m sure most of you all do too. One thing I have noticed for over a year is that there are so many “defaults on loans, repossessions, etc.” Fla. was one of the State’s with the “highest foreclosure rates in the nation.” I assumed this was because a lot of the STATE is based on tourism, the Economy sucked, people weren’t traveling, yadayadayda. Could it be possible that the ANT’s just thought that due to all the foreclosures that they wouldn’t be “booted out?” It really burns me that “they will land on their feet in this situation but who is going to support them until May 2011 when KC’s trial takes place? These two need to get another scam, jmo.

    imo, the ANT’s have never given Baez a single dime. They seem too self absorbed & greedy, just like their daughter. They, imo, feel Baez’s representation of KC for no money is an “entitlement” she deserves. Well, she got just what they paid for, an attorney with no experience.

    Now there’s a question I’d like an answer to. “Who is going to support them until May 2011–and beyond? This gig won’t last forever. Time to go get jobs Anthonys’– like the rest of us working stiffs!

  35. arttart permalink
    February 23, 2010 2:47 pm

    Jon, even if the ANT’s file for Bankruptsy a second time to avoid a possible Judgement in a Defamation Suit, the Judgement would be good forever. If they wrote a book to try to make money, the Judgement will have to be settled with the profits. They can’t do anything to avoid a “Legal Judgement, they are Bankruptcy Proof.” I had to sue a Contractor that build an expensive home for my family & there was a $100,000.00 worth of siding to be replaced. The Contractor tried to avoid the Judgement by bankruptsy, he failed & our Judgement was satisfied.

    That’s interesting to know, arttart. I wasn’t aware of that. That leaves as the most plausable scenario Spacely’s idea that the foundation should rescue them.

  36. nancy permalink
    February 23, 2010 2:52 pm

    Hi Mystery! Great post! I really like the karma part. lol I don’t like the Ant’s behavior but the sadness I feel is that it is where Caylee played and knew as home, but houses and things can be replaced but a precious 2-year old baby girl can never be. The Anthony’s greatest loss was Caylee and their loss of dignity to never step up to protect this baby girl. You know “pride comes before a fall.” The Anthony’s somehow always have shown that they think they are above the law because they kept on with they shanigans even though they destroyed evidence and may I say LIED, oh yeah and then LIED some more and couldn’t care less about the memory of their precious grandaughter unless it came with a price of admission. I think Caylee was played as “The Anthony’s cash withdrawal “card and it is drying up and it should be. It is disgusting how pictures of Caylee that should have been private were instead used as merchandise of convenience and greed. Maybe George should sell his bling earrings(the one’s that honor KC) and go pay for the deposit for an apartment. I think everything is a choice and the Anthony’s made theirs when they did not have the courage to speak up for a toddler that was murdered and still protecting and lying for the mother who killed her in such a horrible way. George boo hooed about being under a microscope when he put himself there and complains about those of us that believe it merits doubt and suspicion when he would lie under oath over and over again and leaving us to wonder why a grandfather would do this to his grandaugther’s memory. My dad would always tell me “honey when you start wrong you will end wrong” and I do believe that is what the Anthony’s fate is and as for KC, well— you can’t duct tape a baby’s mouth so she can’t breath and not wake up ever again and then toss her in the woods in a trash bag and expect to come out of this smelling like a rose now can you KC girl!!!! All KC, Cindy and George will have left to do is walk around and admire each other’s tatooes! Awww la bella vita!!!!

    JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!!!

    nancy–excellent comment. I can’t add to it and I agree with every word of it. Well said.

  37. T-L-I-O-T-G permalink
    February 23, 2010 4:03 pm

    So does this mean they are gonna be street ppl!cool ,I hope ppl throw stones at them.See G-boy should have listened,the WHACKJOB is gonna take you and anyone else she can down with her ship,glub,glub.Off into the sunset they go on the SS Caylee[sic].

    TLIOTG–You do have a way with words!!

  38. Venice permalink
    February 23, 2010 4:15 pm

    May they rot in hell.

    Short and to the point, Venice! lol

  39. GasCanGeorge permalink
    February 23, 2010 4:36 pm

    Okay Cindy now divorce the idiot,,,Now you wont have to pay him a dime. After all isnt that what the plan was even before all this happened? Poor Caylee never had a chance in this f’d up family..Dysfunction took over.

    If they wanted to keep their home they would return to work. Cindy is a nurse and can find a job anywhere…..So this I think is on purpose.

    Maybe Cindy did this on purpose to finally rid herself of her lowlife husband>? If she did, then she may finally try to reedem herself, possibly apologize to those who tried to help her, say she was wrong and honor her granddaughter. I cannot hold out hope for something like that happening but I am holding out hope that see them finally turn on each other…..

    Hi GasCanGeorge! My eyes are bugging out of my head! Cindy apologize? lolololololololol……George, maybe–Cindy, NEVER!! Turning on each other? Just a matter of time….

  40. GasCanGeorge permalink
    February 23, 2010 4:37 pm

    Typo,,,I hold out hope to finally see them turn on each other.

  41. GasCanGeorge permalink
    February 23, 2010 4:38 pm

    Typo,,,I hold out hope to finally see them turn on each other. Was what I wanted to say..

    Good article!

  42. PAMELA permalink
    February 23, 2010 4:41 pm

    “Karma is a bitch with a memory”!!!!! Wow!!! Dude, I am so using that!!!!!

    Pamela–It’s all yours girlfriend–I probably stole it somewhere myself.

  43. joyce permalink
    February 23, 2010 5:02 pm

    lona, “Karma is a bitch with a memory” LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!

    Did I steal the line from lona? lol

  44. Molly permalink
    February 23, 2010 5:43 pm

    artart – any money they make whether from books, interviews, etc. can all be funnelled thru the foundation. then they can live quite easily & safely. No one can sue them or come after them for any monetary settlements.
    I think the A’s know exactly what they are doing here.

    the milsteads 500,000 home went to foreclosure last April 2009, it looks like a new “foundation” was trying to buy it.
    The A’s seem to be learning all of the angles in this foundation “business” from their friends.

    Now THAT is interesting, Molly. Wonder if they pulled that off? Yes, the Anthonys’ obviously are using the Milsteads’ as role models. What does that say about the Anthonys?

  45. February 23, 2010 8:29 pm

    All I know is the Bank Of America had better hurry up with that foreclosure because I read that the feds may try and put a freeze on foreclosures. That may sound cruel but at this point I say throw them out with the trash. I think Mystery and others have described why they are where they are and they deserve what falls upon them.

    This is their life, they know nothing different and because we are different, (normal) we are amazed at what they continue to do. It is just like their kid, we are amazed at how she lied about Caylee and her death. Somehow Lee may escaped the claws of Cindy, we will see in time but the rest just keep trudging along with destruction at their heels, it’s their way of life!

    I would say it won’t be long before the two split as I can’t imagine what goes on in that house. Neither working and yes, who would hire them, home all day throwing knives at each-other. How would one say to them, “have a nice day”?

    Kind of weird that the house is in Cindy’s name only but both names are on the mortgage papers. Here is a link to the papers in a .pdf format, click on the “I acknowledge” button to go there.
    http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/viewDoc.jsp?node=DOCC12979641

    It appears that this particular document is some sort of 2nd mortgage, and they required both their signatures to guarantee it.

  46. Jill from Western Australia permalink
    February 24, 2010 5:41 am

    Hiya my l♥velies…I totally agree with all your comments. I never thought for one minute that G & C were contributing anything towards the KC defense…not their style…too selfish :roll:

    Sumptin’ definately fishy goin’ on…do the math…$785/month = less than $200/week…I doubt you can rent for as little as that.
    There will be a reason why they chose not to make mortgage payments since June of last year without the bank sending many many reminders etc. I read somewhere that Brad Conways condo is also in foreclosure…Spacely {or someone} could you verify that for us please.

    Remember CA silently “mouthing” “I love you” at the last hearing…I think he turned his head away…hmmmm. Cindy wanted a divorce before but when she found out that George would be entitled to 1/2 of everything they re-united…maybe this would be a way to avoid him getting anything…lets face it…1/2 of nothing = nothing :mrgreen:

    I really hope that no-one gives them approx $10 grand to get them out of this predicament…actually I will be very very mad! :evil:

    Thanks for keeping us up to date Mystery…Hugs ♥♥♥

    Hey Jill! I hadn’t heard that about Brad Conway.

    Be prepared to be mad. Something tells me that they will somehow get out of this–or the house will somehow end up belonging to the foundation. JMO

  47. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 7:51 am

    look what the neighbour say,hahhahahhah

    WOFL-Channel 35 reported that Conway knows foreclosure firsthand. He owed $300,000 on a condo in downtown Orlando, but WOFL anchor Bob Frier said Conway didn’t want to discuss it. The condo went on the auction block this month.

    WKMG-Channel 6 noted that it broke the foreclosure story last night at 11. WKMG’s Louis Bolden said neighbors’ reactions ranged from sympathy for the couple to relief that they might leave.

    A neighbor told Bolden: “You don’t have money to pay for your home but you have to go on a cruise — that’s weird.”

    The couple owes more than $121,000 on the home

    They’ve owned the home for how many years and they now owe more than they purchased it for? They were obviously borrowing against the house to supplement the lifestyle that was beyond their means?

    Pat the neighbor on the back who said what everyone must be thinking.

  48. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 7:52 am

    when the anthonys are my neighbours are more than reliefed ,she will go away! :lol:

  49. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 8:11 am

    look this L.P will help the anthonys,nnoooooooooooooooooo

    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/22655429/detail.html

    I read that. Too bad Brad says, “no!” to Leonard. Now, why would he do that? If the Anthonys’ were really desperate to stay in their home, wouldn’t they be willing to accept help wherever it might be?

  50. Hadley permalink
    February 24, 2010 10:32 am

    The “Anthony Lovers in America” just might start sending big, fat checks to bail them out! Maybe that’s what they are counting on….

    Something about this foreclosure just doesn’t “feel right”…I think it is deliberate…just don’t know why.

    I seriously don’t think there are many Anthony lovers left out there. I think there are several reasons they might be doing this, and you guys have all come up with those reasons! It will be interesting to see which one plays out.

  51. lona1 permalink
    February 24, 2010 11:04 am

    The Anthonys woke up in fright this morning after several distinct nightmares during the night time hours. They dreamed Padilla was their new landlord and was by the front door on his horse demanding a mortgage check from them for LAST ‘rent’. hahaha

    :lol: Thanks for the laugh, lona1 I needed it!

  52. lona1 permalink
    February 24, 2010 11:05 am

    that should read ‘last months rent’

  53. lona1 permalink
    February 24, 2010 11:11 am

    all kidding aside, this foreclosure is a deliberate act. They drive 2 cars. If they really wanted to keep their home they would have tightened their belts wherever possible.

  54. LVSusie permalink
    February 24, 2010 12:36 pm

    They cant afford to keep anything in there name because of pending law suits that might come down the line from all of this. All the money they have made is in the foundation to keep it safe from creditors, and to show that the defense is indigent. so the state will have to pick up the tab.

    Another good idea as to why they are doing this, LVSusie! I agree–gotta be some ulterior motive. They could have made the payments if they had chosen to. Money was coming in from media outlets and we know that for a fact. At $200 a week, they could have made the payments out of Cindy’s disability check.

  55. arttart permalink
    February 24, 2010 2:23 pm

    molly, thanks for sharing information with me. I certainly don’t put it past the ANT’s, they have no conscience about using “Caylee” to support themselves & no conscience in not demanding Justice For Caylee.

    LVSusie, KC can claim “Indigent Status” at any time & the Defense would be able to receive monies for her Defense, it is a set amount. Richard Hornsby did a great piece on this awhile back . The Anthony’s money is not tied to KC or the Defense. Baez doesn’t want to claim “Indigent Status” & receive monies because when they do, the Defense will have to “produce where every single dime of KC’s defense monies has come from, including “any deals,” donations to KC’s defense, the sale of photos/licensing fees paid to the law firm, how much money is going to be paid for all the expert witness or if any deals were worked out with them, , any future book deals, movie, etc. Although Baez could probably use some monies for KC’s defense, it comes with the Price of Accountability, something that thus far they have been able to avoid. Also, all monies received by the Foundation have to be “accounted for, they are not at free will to use that money to pay their rent.” The application for Non Profits have to clearly state “what is going to be done w/donations, etc.” At the end of the year, they have to account for everything & it is public record & is not “their personal money.”

    John in Fla., I agree, “throw um out.” I predict another Media Tour selling more licensing fees.

    It was my understanding that they can write off a portion of the moneys for rent, utilities, etc. because the address of the foundation is the Hopespring address. This is where the foundation is conducting business from.

  56. arttart permalink
    February 24, 2010 2:25 pm

    LVSusie, it is not that the “Defense claims to be Indigent,” it would be that their client is “Indigent,” which Lyin Lyon’s said at the last Motions Hearing. Although KC is indigent, the Defense would have to file for “Indigent Status,” unable to afford an attorney, which they have clearly chosen not to do for the reason Richard Hornsby explained above.

  57. LVSusie permalink
    February 24, 2010 2:28 pm

    Thanks Art for explaning that to me, not to change the subject but does anyone know what ever became of Holly Gagne and what happened in court??

    The case was dropped and the bond discharded on February 9, 2010

    01/29/2010 Nolle Prosequi
    02/08/2010 Trial (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Adams, John H, SR)
    02/09/2010 Bond Discharged

    definition of Nolle Prosequi can be found under Legal Dictionary at the top of this page. Basically, what it means is the prosecutor or the plantiff has decided to drop the case for whatever reason.

  58. Spacely permalink
    February 24, 2010 2:58 pm

    I believe the Ants can use donated monies to pay their mortgage.

    The HQ of the foundation is listed on the official paperwork as the Ant’s home address. Even non-profits have operating expenses, which include rent and salaries for staff. The Ants are staff, the Milsteads are staff, and at least a portion of the home is being used for the foundation – which may be rented to the foundation at a reasonable rate of … say … $800 per month. And not only is it not your own money – it’s tax free.

    The accounting of all the donations is a joke. The Milsteads have been running phony not-for-profits for years, but I challenge you to find any public accounting of that money. Although the foundation is required to file a yearly report, it doesn’t really have any figures on it. At least not that I can locate. I would be estatic to view any info anyone else has been able to find.

    Let’s face it – they bought a boat with more than $30 grand in donations. The foundation can spend the money any way it sees fit as long as it is creative in the statement of purpose for each expenditure. And it’s not illegal for a not-for-profit to spend money foolishly – for instance – if the foundation bought 2 year’s worth of food for 6 people to help with “searches” – or if they purchase 1000 gallons of gasoline to be used in foundation vehicles or by “volunteers” – or even to purchase an HQ building, perhaps a property in forclosure.

    I’m not sure they can pay all of their mortgage as they live there, but I believe they can pay their utilities and write off a portion of their house as a workspace.

    I agree with you that the foundation can choose how to spend the money pretty much, but it has to follow the guidelines for a non-profit foundation iin the state of Floriday, and in their foundation’s declaration statement

  59. Spacely permalink
    February 24, 2010 3:07 pm

    Another point to consider is that the Ant’s owe more on the property than it is worth at the moment. At least on paper, the home was purchased for the high 80′s and they owe more than $112,000.

    Depending on the housing market in Orlando at the moment, this may be a lot more money than the bank will be able to get from a sale of the property. Which means, the Ants are in a much better negotiation position. So, if this is a planned event, all the odds are currently stacked in their favor.

    I agree with you Spacely. It’s in their favor–if what they want is to keep the house.

  60. Spacely permalink
    February 24, 2010 3:14 pm

    Hmm… this article may spell out the exact reasoning behind not paying the mortgage:

    http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2010m2d24-Casey-Anthony-news-George-Anthony-says-he-and-Cindy-are-not-going-anywhere-despite-foreclosure

    Brad claims that the fact foreclosure has been filed is proof positive that no book or movie deals have been made – cause Braddy thinks we are all so stupid we won’t remember all the money they already made and apparently did not use to pay the bills – or that deals can be made for future payments – or that Jose deals have absolutely nothing to do with the Ant’s house.

    It’s much like saying that if you see a man running naked through the streets, it is proof positive he owns no clothes… when the reality would most likely be that he does own clothes, he just isn’t wearing any.

    In a similar vein, foreclosure is proof of nothing other than the Ants have not paid their monthly mortgage payment for a lengthy period. Their bank account could be overflowing, but the money only pays off the debt if they write the check.

    interesting, Spacely! But, if they have the money in their bank account, can’t the court freeze their account and take the money?

  61. arttart permalink
    February 24, 2010 3:19 pm

    Spacely, I agree, the “accounting of the ANT’s is going to be difficult.” I am on the STATE Board in my State for a Non Profit for Children with Disabilities. Every expense we have is “accountable to the STATE & a matter of public record,” the monies can only be spent on “Viable Expenses.” The Ant’s might possibly try to claim “a small portion of their rent” as a Business Expense for the Caylee Foundation, but they live in a residential area, not an area zoned for operating a business. You can bet if this is the “scam,” it is public record & they will be reported & busted again, just like the “complaint” when CA was “babysitting” while claiming disability.

    The Foundation will also have to produce an accounting of all donated money to the foundation for 2009, where it went, & what it was used to pay for. Mark NeJames straightened this out once before for the ANT’s before he quit. The Donations were made to a Bank, every dime was accounted for. IF, donations are made directly to the Anthony Family, not the Foundation, there is no accountability to the public. To funnel money through the Foundation, it will be “Public Record.” I agree, the Milstead’s are another bunch of Scumbags, but in the ANT’s case, there is so much “Scrutiny in their case, imo, they will be examined for every expenditure” & everything will be reported in the media just as they are “exposed to monies received from 48 hrs. tattoos, their home foreclosed on. imo, KARMA will bite the ANT’s on the butt, although I agree it may not be “past them to try to deceive the public,” there are too many people, plus Legal Analyst, just waiting to discuss their business.

    The Foundation estimated a total of $25,000.00 for donations for 2009. They will have to file NON Profit Tax Information, & we will see exactly what their expenses were.

    That answers my questions arttart! thanks!

  62. Spacely permalink
    February 24, 2010 3:23 pm

    Jill,

    If this is the same Brad Conway, then this is his recent foreclosure documentation:

    http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1586641

  63. arttart permalink
    February 24, 2010 3:25 pm

    Spacely, thanks for the link. This story really gets my “goat,” I want the Anthony’s exposed for every “scam” they try to pull on the public. By reading all the comments here, we all “suspect them of something self serving,” we just don’t what! How sad.

    Maybe someone needs to remind Conway, the Defense, the Anthony’s, including the Orlando Media, there was only one victim, it was Caylee Marie Anthony. I wish Kathy Belich would do a Story on the Monies made by all from the tragic death of this beautiful child.

  64. Spacely permalink
    February 24, 2010 3:32 pm

    If you snoop around on that last site, you can find some interesting stuff – like this link to documentation about someone in Orange County named Cynthia Marie Anthony getting busted with pot:

    http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

    No way to be sure, but the middle name makes me think maybe…

  65. Spacely permalink
    February 24, 2010 3:35 pm

    Here is one for a Cynthia M Anthony getting busted for prostitution – from the dates listed at the end, I don’t think this is her because I feel sure the media would have been all over it, but it’s still fun to read:

    http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5708258

  66. Spacely permalink
    February 24, 2010 3:36 pm

    Another Cynthia M Anthony who tried to hit a pedestrian with her car – could this be our own sweet C?

    http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5683299

    Thanks for all the links, Spacely. I know what I’ll be doing tonight!

  67. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 3:58 pm

    i dont know its true or not,a wesh blogger,who say she is the anthonys neighbour

    The Anthony’s Do not live in that house on Hope Spring. They live in the next neighborhood over on Flatwood Lane. I think the house in rented. So what ever money was not paid on their mortgage for the Hopespring house is now going towards their new house on Flatwood Lane. I can’t believe they are trying to make it look like they are in dire straits. Puhleese!

    I haven’t been able to verify this–have any of you?

  68. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 4:00 pm

    spacely,prosecution?? :shock: you krack me up! :lol: :lol:

  69. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 4:00 pm

    sorry prostitution!! :lol: :lol:

  70. Spacely permalink
    February 24, 2010 4:25 pm

    Gee, if they are not living there, that means 100% of the house is used by the foundation… so it would be totally legal for it to pay the whole ball of wax…

    Whoa! That’s right!

  71. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 4:40 pm

    news,

    Judge Strickland granted a 30-day holding period for the Prosecution’s new evidence and information that is currently under investigation. Should they require more time a written explanation must be submitted to the court.

  72. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 4:43 pm

    here from wftv
    http://www.wftv.com/news/22661294/detail.html

    I wonder what the heck it is that they are trying to keep under wraps?

  73. Deb Postma permalink
    February 24, 2010 5:23 pm

    I truely hope no-one bails them out, they should of demanded justice for their Grandaughter, instead they are standing behind their pitiful excuse for a daughter. As a Grandmother, I would never defend my daughter if she killed her child. Makes me sick. We need to have tougher sentences, If you commit a crime against a child, any crime it should be Life In Prison!! Cindy and George are capable of working, they sure don’t have any discibilities when it comes to going on a Cruise!

    I agree, Deb. I would go one step further and say that in the states that allow it, the death penalty should be the sentence.

  74. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 6:02 pm

    deb postma,i agree ,disabilty i saw nothing on cindy,when she had her hammer in the hand,and geo was never a man from work,nobody will hire him,because he is lazzy,thats the truth!

    For whatever reason, it doesn’t appear that George has been a good worker for a very long time. The situation they are in now has, in his eyes, provided him with the perfect excuse.

  75. arttart permalink
    February 24, 2010 6:19 pm

    mikka, do you really think that is true about the WESH blogger saying that the ANT’s moved to another neighborhood? When the Anthony’s were notified by the media about the foreclosure, which they claim to know nothing about, (yea right!) they were at the Hope Spring address. It really makes you wonder what’s going on, but imo, the ANT’s “would not qualify under any circumstances for any kind of loan in this economic climate after a previous bankruptcy & foreclosure” & just as GA claims he can’t get a job, who would rent to them? Their note being only $785.00, it would be almost “impossible” for them to even rent an apartment for that amount of money in Orlando, much less rent another home. imo, it isn’t possible that they have “bought something else.” That also, would be a matter of public record “under property transfers.”

    If the ANT’s really moved, imo, Lee & his room mate would have moved into the Hope Spring address as Lee is paying rent somewhere to someone. It was reported that Lee has not been living on Hope Spring & has not been living with the ANT’s for some time. It would seem if the ANT’s had monies going anywhere & trying to hide it, it would be into Lee’s account, as it would be highly unlikely that Lee would have to “divulge his bank account” unless he was “suspected of hiding assets for the Anthony’s.” Monies into The cayleefoundation will be “public record”

    Spacely, cool, your becoming a “read detective,” thanks for sharing links with us, these people can’t be trusted, LOL! Sadly, neither can their attorney as he is the one that told Larry King’s audience “there was no duct tape on Caylee’s face!” Birds of a feather, just sayin……..

    Interesting points! I don’t understand why they would not be living in the Hopespring address but want people to believe they are living there? Why would they want the impression that they are living in the house to be out there if they aren’t? Seems like that would make it harder for the foundation to buy it. If they weren’t living in it, as Spacely said, they could say they are using it 100% for the foundation. That would surely clear the way for the foundation to own.

  76. arttart permalink
    February 24, 2010 6:21 pm

    mikka, thanks for sharing your links too, if you miss an article in this case, your behind! LOL!

  77. arttart permalink
    February 24, 2010 6:31 pm

    Off topic! OMG! Did you all read on WFTV that the Judge ALLOWED the evidence to be “kept from the DEFENSE for at least 30 days, & at that time, they can, in writing, request more time.

    jmo! I bet the Defense & the ANT’s are about to POOP! O happy days!

    Yep, that Strickland allowed it proves that the prosecution is NOT just playing head games iwth the defense. They must have or be on to something pretty major for this to happen.

  78. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 7:22 pm

    artart,i write ,i dont know its true,but its possible! :smile: but when this is true,the anthonys try to fool the world!

  79. mikka permalink
    February 24, 2010 7:23 pm

    artart :lol: thanks!

  80. February 24, 2010 9:41 pm

    I would think that the two idiots could pay themselves a salary from the foundation which would allow them to spend it in anyway they like, cruise, drugs, booze, house, new car, etc. The foundation would have to have the income to do that and my guess is that it has become a failed foundation bringing in only a few dollars here and there. Unless and this would be a big unless, money gotten from pictures like in licensing fees or any money for future book or movie deals went to the foundation as donations. That money could sit there forever and they could draw a salary from it forever. I don’t know how the money earned running a tax exempt foundation is taxed but I assume they would still have to pay tax like the rest of us.

    If they become the subject of a future civil law suit then any large chunks of money just sitting in the foundation could not be touched. Any future deals of any kind could be paid for with a large donation. What a wonderful foundation this must be. This is why I did this http://john.bitbun.com/no%20end.html It tells it like it is.

    If they owe money on their house and they owe way more than it is worth, it could take many, many years to reverse that by just living there and making payments. My guess is that Brad has advised them to let it go to foreclosure. I don’t believe for one minute that they have any sentimental attachment to that house. It seems just the opposite to me. Casey grew up there and destroyed all their lives. Caylee was possible murdered in the house. The body was found near by and I don’t think they have many friends in the community. I see nothing to keep them there.

    As far as renting in a near by neighborhood, I can’t see why. If you are in a house and not paying the mortgage, why move out and pay to live somewhere else? It’s free rent, at least for a while. This is just another Anthony/Conway spin and easy to see that this lovie-dovie pair is out for self-survival only. Remember no one in their family ever tells the truth.

    Very good points, John, and I agree with you. Thanks for the link to the parody! lol

  81. Hadley permalink
    February 24, 2010 11:34 pm

    John,
    I can’t imagine anyone wanting to buy the house where little Caylee may have been murdered. I sure wouldn’t!

    me either, Hadley. Seems to me that house would be a very difficult sell.

  82. arttart permalink
    February 24, 2010 11:52 pm

    johninflorida, yep! Great link to a foundation, made me LMAO! You bring to the table “good thoughts too, so many scams possible. One sad thing is for sure, most of us can all agree the Anthony’s are “self serving” & they have Conman, I mean Conway, to legally “keep them out of the ditch.” Unfortunately, he wasn’t even able to keep his own property from being foreclosed on.

    They haven’t gotten any sympathy “from BLOGGERS who are ignorant & need to get a life.”
    Well CA, most of us at least have jobs & pay our mortgages by monies earned from a real job & we haven’t “lived off our murdered grand daughter.” You can just never under estimate these scumbags! LOL!

    Scumbags is a kind tag for them, arttart!

  83. lona1 permalink
    February 25, 2010 9:32 am

    this comment is from a person that lives around the corner there,

    News Flash People. The Anthony’s Do not live in that house on Hope Spring. They live in the next neighborhood over on Flatwood Lane. I think the house in rented. So what ever money was not paid on their mortgage for the Hopespring house is now going towards their new house on Flatwood Lane. I can’t believe they are trying to make it look like they are in dire straits.

    I still haven’t seen anything that would prove that to be true, lona1.

  84. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 25, 2010 10:34 am

    Hi everyone! I’m responding to comments within the comment boxes! Trying to catch up!

  85. Spacely permalink
    February 25, 2010 11:07 am

    Mystery,

    Couple of responses to your comments:

    1) It is interesting to consider exactly what dollar amount the foundation could potentially be paying for rent at the Ant’s house. You are correct when you state that the foundation can only pay for a portion of the square footage. However, since the house payment is currently $800 and reasonable office space rent in the area is probably at least $500+, so I think the Ants could charge the foundation more than their house payment depending on the square footage and reasonable area rates they describe in a lease. I am not sure how the law regards these type of matters, but if I rent a room in my house, I don’t know that there is any law that prevents me from charging whatever I want as long as the leasee agrees to it. Now, it would be different if this was a business owned by the Ants, but that is not the case. This is a foundation that is not “owned” by the Ants, but by the board of directors.

    And just as another possible scenario, let’s say that part of what the foundation can pay for is overnight stays for staff directly involved in a search case. Is it possible they have been “searching” for Caylee this whole time, so every night is a search night, which means the foundation could pay a motel like charge for every night they spend in their beds. And Dennis and Sherri have been “on assignment” since they left their permanent address.

    2) Could the court freeze GnC’s bank account? Of course, but I doubt there is anything in the account, I just made that overflowing statement for impact. My guess would be cash withdrawals stuffed in a mattress or in a box in the garage or someplace like that.

    Which also makes you wonder about cash donations… how were those accounted for? What prevented any of these people from just hanging on to jars of donations and never sending them through any bank account?

    Just because I like the image of the man running through the street in his birthday suit (ok, I would prefer a woman, but that is another point entirely), I will tie this back to that analogy. A man could be running naked through the streets and the cops could put a freeze on his closet, but if he has a jogging suit stashed in his car, he can still enter McDonald’s for dinner. :)

  86. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 25, 2010 2:42 pm

    Spacely–the IRS only allows so much per square foot for office space. I know this because I have a studio in my home, and my husband has an office. Don’t think we are talking about the same thing though. I was talking about write-off’s on their income tax. Don’t really think that applies now that you’ve explained it.

    LOLOLOL! I love you, Spacely! You can sure make me laugh.

  87. arttart permalink
    February 25, 2010 4:05 pm

    Mystery, you are correct, the Ant’s could pay themselves with monies from cayleefoundation for rent, BUT, it would only be a small portion, probably the square footage of a bedroom. There are strict guidelines for this with the IRS, so it is not possible they can write off their entire mortgage. They could also pay themselves monies from the cayleefoundation, but since CA is drawing disability, She can’t “draw another salary” if she wasn’t capable to “work in the first place.” If CA is caught working, she can be made to pay her “disability payments” back. I have seen this happen.

    I am only estimating, but I would think around $200.00 would be the maximum the Foundation would have to pay due to the square footage of the home, it is a residence, not zoned for business. There is absolutely nothing I would love more than for them to “open a can of worms with the IRS over Caylee’s foundation. Then of course, the Foundation’s information will be available to the public, just like any other Non Profit.

    Spacely, your absolutely right, any CASH donations would be very difficult to hold them accountable for. When they were selling the t-shirts for $10.00 a shirt, I would imagine lots of cash changed hands. If you are an honest person like we all are, its hard to figure what scam they’ve come up with, but, I agree, this stinks!

  88. Spacely permalink
    February 25, 2010 4:21 pm

    The whole discussion about taxes and what the not-for-profits can pay for and how much has been very interesting.

    Although I personally do not have time to do further research on the subject, I did find the following contact info for the state of Florida and if someone wants to take the ball from here, I am sure they can provide us with much more detailed information:

    Telephone: 850.245.6000
    Email: corphelp@dos.state.fl.us

    Website
    http://www.sunbiz.org/

    This is the state organization that handles all business registering for the state of Florida.
    I have looked everywhere I can think of, but I cannot find that any information about a not-for-profit in Florida is public other than this registration form.
    As far as exact earnings and such, I am sure those are in their federal tax return, but I do not believe even under the Sunshine Laws that we have access to it. At least, I can’t find any for any Florida not-for-profit like KidFinders. If anyone else can, I would love to examine the links. Or perhaps you have to snail mail the request and wait for the reply.

  89. Spacely permalink
    February 25, 2010 4:28 pm

    In reply to zoning aspects of the Foundation working out of the Anthony house – again, I have not researched this personally due to time constraints, but here is a link to the Orlando Zoning Guide:

    http://www.cityoforlando.net/planning/cityplanning/Policy%20Document/Planning%20and%20Zoning%20Reference%20Guide_Jan%202009.pdf

    This should be able to answer the exact zoning of the Ants house and if it would be possible to run a not-for-profit from the property and any permits they would need to pull to do so. If someone would like to take on this research project, I can hold out the golden apple of success for you – if you can determine if a permit or such was needed, chances are we can find those specific records for the Ants property in the clerk’s database.

  90. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 25, 2010 4:49 pm

    Thanks for the links, Spacely. I’ll try to peruse those sites over the weekend.

    Arttart–I thought you could make up to a certain amount if you were on disability. (Not much, but you could supplement with odd jobs? I’m with Spacely–this has been interesting.

  91. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 25, 2010 4:49 pm

    Sorry Spacely–you were caught in moderation!

  92. arttart permalink
    February 25, 2010 9:22 pm

    mystery, I know in “workman’s comp claims you can’t earn any money” as it is really a claim about being “hurt on the job.” BUT! CA’s disability might be some “disability insurance she had in addition to her health insurance” & you may well be right, it may be possible that she could earn some money, I don’t know the rules on that, thanks for pointing that out as I hadn’t thought about it.

    Spacely, you are a “most excellent detective.” I will snoop around myself this weekend. The thing that is puzzling to me is this: The TRIAL is over a year away. How are the ANT’s going to support themselves until then? This is all “highly suspicious,” & I would like to know exactly how they intend to support themselves for the next 13 or so months. One thing is for sure, I don’t think the ANT’s are going to get anything past the ORLANDO Media, imo, they have done a good job “reporting everything they can to exposeof the behavior of this family.”

  93. arttart permalink
    February 25, 2010 9:33 pm

    Spacely, what we might think about doing is trying to figure out when TAX Deadlines are for NON Profits in Fla. since the ANT’s will have to file NON PROFIT Tax returns this year accounting for the monies in that account & they are public record. You have certainly raised a lot of interesting questions. You can bet CA has researched all the angles! LOL!

    imo, had the ANT’s not interjected themselves into this case, just demanded JUSTICE for Caylee, kept a low profile instead of choosing to see themselves as “celebrities” & “using the National Media to spew propaganda about the innocence of KC,” they would be eligible to get jobs if they really wanted to work. imo, I feel so distrustful of anything they do, I know many of you feel the same way, we just automatically think “what scam are they trying to pull now!” It will be interesting to see “how they land on their feet with the house situation.”

  94. nancy permalink
    February 25, 2010 11:03 pm

    Hi Mystery, Have you seen this? Is this the Ant’s Ol’ Brad listed on here?

    http://www.420magazine.com/forums/florida/79558-florida-state-marijuana-lawyer-listings.html

    Oh my!!!!

  95. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2010 8:55 am

    arttart

    I agree with you! It will be very difficult for them to get anything past the local media. Whatever they are up to, it will be made public.

  96. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2010 8:55 am

    Hey Nancy–Wellll, it’s the same address!

  97. February 26, 2010 9:06 am

    Here is a thought! If Cindy is collecting “disability” she can not be working. In other words she can not collect a salary from the foundation, not legally that is. It would be George who would pull a larger salary and that would also explain why neither are working. It’s called “milking the system”.

  98. lona1 permalink
    February 26, 2010 1:21 pm

    on Nancy Grace tonight,

    http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

  99. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2010 1:25 pm

    john

    I hadn’t thought of that……

  100. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2010 1:26 pm

    Thanks for the link lona1

    I’d be shocked if NG knows anymore than we do….. but I’ll be watching to see.

  101. February 26, 2010 6:30 pm

    lona1, thanks for sharing the information as I was going to watch a movie, now, I’m with Mystery, I’ll be watching too & I doubt they know more than we do, BUT, I am interested in what the “Criminal Defense Attorneys” have to say about this. LOL! When NG has a BOMBSHELL, we have “dissected the information a 100 times before she airs it.” LOL! NG will probably have L Padilla on to give more “speculation,” as if he has any real idea! LOL!

    I bet the ANT’s are about to POOP in addition to Baez over the “evidence being with held.

  102. February 26, 2010 8:33 pm

    johninflorida, you make a real good point about George & it certainly seems plausible it would solve any problems of questionable monies CA could get.

    nancy, thanks for sharing your link with us. JEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ! Remember when HOOVER said D Casey was furious because Baez hadn’t paid him a dime nor had the Anthony’s? Hoover said in the interview D Casey was behind on his mortgage. Guess he will be the next to have a foreclosure, Conwheels, the ANT’s, just sayin…………………………… Birds of a feather flock together! All losers.

  103. nancy permalink
    February 26, 2010 10:02 pm

    Hi Arttart, Yeah, Ol’ Brad is such a tool!!! You’re so right, Birds of a feather!!!!!

  104. ~LisaG~ permalink
    February 27, 2010 2:04 am

    What an absolutely, well written article! It is sad to think they may end up homeless, but their behavior, especially to those trying to help and during Mr. Morgan’s depositions was so appaling, I lost any sense of feeling sad for them.

  105. ~LisaG~ permalink
    February 27, 2010 2:13 am

    I would like to add one more thing. If George and Sindy had only gone off on Casey, like they did to Mr. Morgan, during their jailhouse visits, instead of hi gorgeous, oh sweetheart, we love you, we know you are only trying to protect the family, blah blah blah. It just makes me sick how they constantly treated Casey with kindness, and in return she was nothing but a super b*tch to them.

  106. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2010 8:13 am

    arttart–I’m laughing this morning because you were exactly right. Ole’ Leonard was on NG last night–and apparently fresh off a sick bed.

    And we were both right–nuttin’ new~! Although it has peaked my interest even more as to what the prosecution found so compelling that they didn’t want it revealed yet. I wonder if Lenny’s theory is correct?

    I don’t think I knew about D.Casey. Interesting.

  107. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2010 8:16 am

    Thanks, LisaG!

    Amen to that! They’ve obviously got it in em’ to go on the attack in a big way–Why didn’t they gang up on Casey instead of tiptoeing around her? Maybe they did early on and it didn’t work so they switched their tactics…..of course, that didn’t work either!

  108. February 27, 2010 10:19 am

    Lisa G, your avatar totally kicks butt, it, it made me laugh. YEP! Somebody put the VOO DOO on KC & the ANT’s, her name might be KARMA!

    Mystery, LOL! L Padilla did an “outstanding performance,” he is always good for “food for thought,” chew on it awhile & spit out the garbage. I know you are all familiar with the “Exclusions to the Sunshine Law,” but LP said after Tracey’s interviews were released, that there was a lot more of the interview with Tracey & Rob Dick we haven’t heard, so I am assuming this is being with held for a reason. (If anyone is not familiar with this, it is the evidence released “only to the defense” & we will not see until trial” but, I have a good link for it if you need it.)

    YEP! I have always thought D Casey was the “Major Player” in this case & I am also hoping he has become the “weakest link,” I am speculating that he will “take immunity” to avoid an “Obstruction of Justice ” charge, & that would be the least of it. Hoover, imo, could have gotten “some immunity on information we have not seen,” as he is also a weak link but certainly knows less than DC. jmo.

  109. Hadley permalink
    February 28, 2010 5:25 pm

    Hi Mystery,
    You know, even Nancy Grace said that she had “never” heard of this before. Also, none of her “unleashed lawyers” had either. That makes this even more confusing!

    Everything I’ve read on other blogs, and I’ve checked a bunch, seem to point to Dominic Casey. Whatever, it is, I pray that it brings swift justice to little Caylee, as we all do.

  110. Hadley permalink
    March 1, 2010 6:48 am

    I finally learned how to put photo on avatar…This is my Yorkie Kemper. He thinks he’s a German Shepard!

  111. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 1, 2010 7:20 am

    Hey arttart–Yes, it could be D. Casey or LP’s gang, but, my question would then be why is the prosecution saying they have uncovered NEW information that requires them to keep it secret for now. Doesn’t make sense to me. Wouldn’t that be OLD news?

    jus’ wonderin’

  112. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 1, 2010 7:22 am

    Hi Hadley!!! I love Kemper! I love the name, too.! Remind me sometime to tell you a story about a yorkie I once knew. It will make you cry.

    See what I said to arttart just above your comment.

  113. cecelia permalink
    March 1, 2010 9:02 am

    just another scam outta the scamthony’s theres rumors floating that they have another house and they are letting this one go to keep it from being attached in any lawsuits. i’d beleive that before i ‘ll beleive they are bankrupt financially. morally bankrupt YES financially whatever…. lying scammin’ losers

  114. Hadley permalink
    March 1, 2010 9:09 am

    Hi Mystery,
    So glad u like Kemper…he’s a sweetie, most of the time. He loves to chase squirrels and birds. I have a pool, so last year I bought him a doggie “life-jacket”…so funny!

    If you want some of the “latest on media whores” read today’s Hinky Meter~! It’s a BOMBSHELL about Nancy Grace and Leonard Padilla.

  115. Hadley permalink
    March 1, 2010 9:40 am

    Hey,
    I might be going to New Orleans later. I’ll stock up on Voo Doo Dolls if I go! Will pass them out…so “certain people” will be surrounded. lol

    I love animals…I can’t even watch a television show that talks about animal cruelty. It tears me apart, and takes a long time to get over it.
    Hinky really didn’t pull any punches! She really laid it out…NG would pee her pants if she read it. haha Talk about BOMBSHELL…it’s a BOMBSHELL!

    I still think Dominic Casey is right in the middle of this, and I also think “something is very strange about the “foreclosure”) Hope u will read Hinky…I never post there..just read.

  116. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 1, 2010 10:13 am

    Cecelia

    I’m leaning that way, too.

  117. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 1, 2010 10:14 am

    Hadley!

    A life jacket for you doggie? That’s too cute. I can’t watch a movie or read a book about a dog. Ifind that bothers me more than anything.

    I’m off to read Val’s blog! Thanks for the head’s up.

  118. Spacely permalink
    March 1, 2010 1:22 pm

    Excerpts from Cindy’s Diary over the last year:

    June 1, 2008 – Dear Diary, finally got a big ol’ monkey off my back, yep, stopped paying the mortgage today, suprising how much is left over to play with so I’m thinking CRUISE in the near future. Braddy says there is no way anyone can do anything to us, who’s going to buy this house with the stench of death reeking in every room? He says we can live here indefinently. The two of us can’t figure out why anyone pays their mortgage anymore and he told me he quit paying his a few months ago. Liberating!!! Have to remember to ask S & D why they moved out of their foreclosed home cause we could have used the extra room for the foundation. They should get a good attorney like my Braddy.

    February 22, 2010 – Dear Diary, well I never in all my life, but the bank sent us a foreclosure notice today. Why? Why? Why? It’s only been 7 months since we made a payment. I thought you got more time than this. I called Braddy, but he says this is all legal and they are doing the same to him. Where do these people get the nerve? Lenny says he will pay off the house for us, but I don’t like him or his hat. Gotta go prep a room for Braddy, he is going to be spending a few nights here while he finds a new place to stay.

  119. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 1, 2010 2:46 pm

    You make-a me laugh, Spacely. Of course, that’s probably exactly how the conversation went!

  120. March 1, 2010 5:15 pm

    Mystery, re: new evidence. I am thinking that the STATE has had the murder of Caylee figured out for a long time but they have to “have the evidence” to validate their theory in Court. imo, the evidence will validate what they suspected, & hopefully, others will be charged.

    Exampe: The STATE probably “suspects that CA knows a lot more & has lied but couldn’t prove it.” They may now have the “evidence to prove their theory” so perhaps if she or any member of the ANT family participated in any way in any “tampering of evidence, hiding evidence, or promoting a foundation for missing children if “they had knowledge Caylee was dead & down the street from their home, etc.,” they can be charged. Perhaps it may be “new” because the “the information could possibly be considered evidence” & not theory.

    I am so curious about this evidence I decided to read a variety of BLOGS on the subject to see the varying thoughts. Most people are “weighing in on DC as he is a constant link from the beginning to present & involved with the Defense & the Family. I did read an interesting theory that someone suggested that possibly “KC did have help getting rid of Caylee, an accomplish.” The peep suggested that perhaps “an accomplish could have come forward due to conscience,” or was exposed by someone else. I thought it was something to think about.

  121. LVSusie permalink
    March 1, 2010 6:29 pm

    Could LE be talking to Joe Jordon that the defense says he was out in the woods, there was something said about him taping the defense without them knowing it, could this be what the new evidence is???

  122. arttart permalink
    March 2, 2010 7:16 am

    LVSusie, it was an “investigator that worked for Baez” that taped Joe Jordan which it “illegal in the STATE of Fla. The STATE filed a MOTION that this be “inadmissable,” & the STATE won the Motion. We will “never hear this tape as it can’t be used in trial.”

    The STATE had interviewed Joe Jordan early in the investigation, then the Defense sent an investigator to interview him. He has already told “conflicting stories” & imo, he will be of no use to “either side.” imo, it is highly unlikely thay Joe Jordan “is the new evidence.

    imo, the “evidence is far more damning” than Joe Jordan who has a limited roll in the case.

  123. Valhall permalink
    March 2, 2010 6:36 pm

    arttart,

    LVSusie had it right. Joseph Jordan taped a phone call from the defense lawyer who phoned him and talked to him about his search in the area where Caylee was ultimately found. Joe is the one that broke the law taping the phone call. He’s also the one that admitted it to Miss Linda and handed over the tape. She requested to have the tape sealed due to the fact it was illegally obtained.

  124. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 2, 2010 6:55 pm

    arttart

    Wouldn’t THAT be a bombshell and a half!?! I’ve gotten excited before about a smoking gun that never appeared—-trying not to get too worked up over this.

  125. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 2, 2010 6:57 pm

    Hi LVSusie and Val! Thanks for answering that for arttart.

  126. March 2, 2010 9:15 pm

    Val hal, I watched that MOTION & I must be losing my mind. LOL! Sorry LVSusie, it appears that I misunderstood this during the Court Proceeding! I am going to go back & look at that motion again as apparently, I have gotten this mixed up & I am “rabid” about this case. & the facts. The black gentleman that was sitting at the Defense Table during that MOTION was Baez’s new investigator.

    Thanks for pointing that out to me.

  127. ann permalink
    March 10, 2010 7:56 pm

    Although this seems to be more of a private club, I would like to make a comment.

    They collected, perhaps as much as $500,000 and probably much more (that can even be traced). They probably paid something to Casey’s attorney to retain the lawyers (dream team) and experts required (which, I feel, will be repaid to the Anthonys once the State and media start paying these lawyers and experts for appearances, statements and opinions.

    It is another sympathy cry before the trial starts. The media will know how much they need money!

    Please note there is no bankruptcy (which makes one wonder why?)

    The Anthonys cannot continue to live in Florida. They may well be going to Nassau or somewhere safe to keep their stashed cash.

    Thanks for letting me share these thoughts with you.

  128. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 11, 2010 7:22 am

    ann

    This isn’t a private club, and I’m so glad you decided to comment here. Welcome, and I hope you will continue to post.

    I agree with you. They have collected much more than we probably know in blood money. I also think this was part of a bigger plan.

    The only thing I disagree with is about the Anthonys’ retaining the lawyers. Casey sold the pictures she was in possession of via Baez and that’s where the $111,000 came from. I don’t think George and Cindy have shared their new found wealth with anyone. I wonder if they’ve stashed any–they have a history of letting money run through their fingers.

    I think they will eventually move, too.

  129. May 22, 2010 3:49 pm

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  130. itsamysterytome permalink*
    May 22, 2010 8:42 pm

    Thanks aldytop!

    I’m kinda sorta on a mini-hiatus right now. Middle son is getting married in our garden in two weeks. I’ll be posting again after the wedding if not sooner!

  131. Zach permalink
    May 26, 2011 4:48 pm

    whoa! the photo on the bottom right is scary look’n!

  132. Annette permalink
    June 1, 2011 10:54 am

    Wow Most who have posted here seem to me to be ANTHONY BASHERS!
    Do any of YOU have ALL the SAME Issue’s Going on in ur lives to be able to say what ur saying MAKING JUDGMENT WITH LITTLE OR NO REAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY ARE COPING WITH????
    Please Before you judge someone and how they COPE with ALL the EMOTIONAL TERMOIL THE ANTHONY’S ARE FACING.(Loss of a Grandchild they had in their home from birth, & the daughter whom has lost/murdered, misplaced/dumped???? PUBLIC & MEDIA HARRASMENT & SPECULATION) I will assume that you are atleast familar with the term post-tramatic-stress-disorder. unbelievable ur flapping lips! BLAH BLAB BLAH.

  133. itsamysterytome permalink*
    June 1, 2011 1:01 pm

    Annette, If you would be so kind as to look at the date this particular post was on, you would see it was 1 1/2 years ago. The Anthonys’ at that time, were doing a lot of things during that period. They have done a complete 180 since the trial began. I would venture to say everyone that commented here, has great empathy for what they are going through and are very glad they’ve stopped with the lies and taken their blinders off.

  134. June 15, 2011 12:09 pm

    I’m sorry, but I don’t think George and Cindy Anthony are as evil as everyone thinks. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to fathom and comprehend that your own daughter maliciously murdered your only grandchild? That’s not something many people could come to grips with very easily. It would take time to come to terms with that. Even now, there is a question whether it happened that way or not. Don’t get me wrong, I definitely think Casey did something to little Caylee, but what it was, I don’t know. I think it’s very sad that they will lose the home where they have so many fond memories of their precious grand daughter. The truth is, none of us should be here. This shouldn’t even be a topic. Little Caylee should be alive and well, living happily in her home with her family. It’s heart breaking.

  135. itsamysterytome permalink*
    June 15, 2011 1:47 pm

    ladybugmom

    George and Cindy didn’t lose their home.(this is an older post.) They worked out a plan with the bank, I believe.

    George and Cindy, in particular Cindy are living a hell I couldn’t begin to imagine. You are so right. Caylee should be a happy 6 year old starting 1st grade this fall. Very sad.

  136. Tiffany Duiett permalink
    June 17, 2011 9:39 pm

    Everyone is suddenly suffering from self imposed ‘know-it-allism’.
    A family is in crisis, has lost a granddaughter and a daughter.
    Unless you are a parent in the same boat as the Anthony’s no one could possibly know what they are suffering.But the human condition being what it is, hateful, spiteful comments are offered up like manna from Heaven without the slightest insight to the facts. You all seem to have all the answers, so why not save the state the inconvience of a trial and just render your verdict,, not so much on Casey, I have no sympathy for her, but the rest of the family?
    I pray that none of you are ever faced with a tragedy of this magnitude, however if you are you will be singing a different tune

  137. Robin permalink
    June 19, 2011 9:52 am

    Thank you, Ladybug and Tiffany, for bringing mercy and compassion to our often heated judgments. I once was a staunch critic, but feel now with the family’s pain since the trial began and Baez started throwing all his filthy curve balls. No one wins where evil reigns, and the only one we can be sure of here is Casey. Thanks to Mystery for this open forum, and the rest of you for all your posts. The only silver lining here is the huge outpouring of love for little Caylee. What a tribute to her precious life.

  138. June 19, 2011 11:26 am

    I’m glad the Anthony’s got to keep their home. It would have broken my heart if they lost the only thing they have left, their memories of their precious grand-baby, Caylee. I just don’t understand this world we live in, where such horrible things can happen. May God have mercy on us all. The only comfort in this terribly sad story is knowing that little Caylee is in the arms of God right now and the troubles of this world are far behind her, and that some day, her grandparents will see her again and will get to hold her in their arms and dance with her in heaven. May God’s peace surround them.

  139. Gemma permalink
    July 2, 2011 12:55 am

    I agree with you “ladybugmom09″, I did not know the Anthony’s got to keep their home “thank God”. I’ve been so angry at them specially and Cindy but through the three years, this enitre trial “my heart is in pieces for them”. I feel their pain, is horrible and all I can wish for them both and Lee is that “God” takes over the three of them “and help them with some peace and tranquility in their hearts”.

    To the Anthony Family “May God, with Caylee by his side place some sort of peace within you all, may Gods love help you all get threw this horrible “test of faith” you have been given to face”.

    God bless you all, George, Cindy and Lee

  140. nilza pestana permalink
    July 4, 2011 10:46 pm

    I really pray and hope there is justice for Caylee, that pure, innocent , naive and precious child.

  141. gail bowes permalink
    July 5, 2011 10:55 pm

    I am so saddened by the injustice of the juries decision to find Casey NOT GUILTY on all charges.. Just wanna know IF she didnt do it, WHO else had any reason to kill a presious little baby???? The ansewr is NOBODY!! Duck tape, cholorfform?? she used that to as a babysitter after she ran out of Xanax.. and nothing ever came up about where the got that prescription and how!! hummmmm… I have lost all respect for our judicial system!! Another OJ #2 …maybe Casey will not go out and look for the real killer!!! sure!! Ssick Sick Sick

  142. josh permalink
    July 10, 2011 7:28 am

    baby killers anthonys are!

  143. NwsJnky permalink
    July 23, 2011 11:27 pm

    Update – post trial. The Anthony’s left for a Bahama ‘rest’ paid for by Florida business man with a questionable background on Friday, July 22nd, 2011. Cindy is working on her book. After all, she spent the whole trial taking notes.

    Miss Casey’s attorney, the nortorious Jose Baez, supposedly in New York, is fielding requests from the major networks for a 7 figure interview.

    Meanwhile, there is a ton of information coming out that was not allowed in the trial (see youtube depositions).

    Someone knows more about this case than they are letting on. The Anthony’s are not the people they seem to be. Their backgrounds are quite questionable. No wonder Casey is the way she is. Lee is smart to keep a low profile.

    Let’s keep seeking the “Truth for Caylee”. Don’t let this case turn cold.

  144. Jenn permalink
    September 14, 2011 11:03 am

    I feel for Cindy and George. I pray that none of you are EVER in their position! Walk a mile in someone else’s shoes before you cast blame. So sad that people are so cruel and ANGRY.

  145. Robin permalink
    September 14, 2011 11:50 am

    So right, Jenn. Well put and well taken. Glad in a way I never had children. Too much responsibility for uncontrollable outcomes.

  146. August 12, 2012 5:01 am

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  147. Linda permalink
    June 15, 2013 2:41 am

    Wow,So much water under the bridge since these comments were made..Today is June 15,2013 and guess what!! They still live in that home!!! And From what I understand,The home is payed in full now…Now,It was told on the Dr Phil Show that the Anthonys do not take any money from the **FOUNDATION** Dr.Phil made it very clear that he was making a donation to the Caylee foundation so they would appear on the show..And he did! 600.000 and POW there it is..The home was paid in full,There were several repairs made,They bought BRAND NEW his and hers jeeps,Went on cruises,shopping sprees and Cindy is on Twitter showing off a Brand new diamond ring..The only thing that we have NOT seen is where any of that **Donated money to the foundation** has been used to help even ONE missing or exploited child!! There are several reports on line that say that G&C take 80% from each donation that is made and they made LEE vice President of the foundation and his wife Malory is also getting paid…Finally,There are also reports that Cindy has been taking and giving Casey Money and has been from the day the money started rolling in…Yes,From rags to riches!! This Family is living large on blood money and Noone,NOONE is making them pay for any of their crimes!! BTW,Last I heard,They have gotten way over a million dollars now and it continues to roll in..I have several opinons about the whole thing..But I will stop at that and PRAY that KARMA will come soon and they are all made to answer for what they have done and continue to do!!! JMHO!

  148. June 29, 2013 11:43 am

    Everyone loves what you guys are up too. This kind of clever work and reporting!

    Keep up the very good works guys I’ve you guys to my personal blogroll.

  149. November 11, 2013 6:35 am

    Its called KARMA… they protected, lied and supported their nasty evil child killing daughter and now KARMA is knocking. Just wait watch it won’t be the last evil ho bag protector to get their KARMA.

  150. November 14, 2013 11:35 am

    must be lawyer fees but 90,000 in 1989, the monthly payments would very low

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