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More information on George Anthony’s suicide attempt

January 23, 2009

More has been discovered about the suicide note George left.  The eight page note indicated that he was at the end of his rope, and once gone, his family would have a better life.  He wrote about Casey’s strength, and said he doesn’t believe she hurt her daughter, Caylee.  He did make dark, veiled references to his daughter’s friends. George also wrote that Cindy could do better than him and he wrote about Lee.

On the 911 call Conway placed Thursday, he said he was worried that George Anthony had “done something to himself.””George has been gone since 8:30 this morning, and he has several bottles of medication from his house as well, and some pictures. We’re worried that something … that he’s done something to himself,” Conway told the 911 dispatcher.

“Currently, he has been stabilized. He has been moved up to a room and admitted here at Halifax Health,” hospital spokeswoman Salina Wang said on Friday afternoon. “Right now we’re not commenting on any mental issues that he may or may not have. He is undergoing medical evaluation.”

Chitwood, who drove George Anthony to the hospital, told Local 6 News that he had expected to find him dead. He also said that George Anthony did not want to leave the hotel but did after being issued an ultimatum.Chitwood also said that George Anthony told him he went to Daytona Beach because he was “broke” and said, “You don’t know what I’m going through.”

Cindy had said she noticed prescription bottles and a picture of herself and Casey missing from the house along with George. George began sending text messages at 10:47 pm Thursday night.  Cindy told the sheriffs department that the messages stated to her and other friends that he didn’t want to live anymore and he wanted to be with Caylee.  She said he also texted that he wanted to be left alone and to make sure Caylee was in God’s arms.  Police found remnants of fast food and beer, blood pressure medication and other pill bottles.

Casey Anthony was told  of the situation involving her father by health staff members at the Orange County Jail.   Jose Baez, visited Casey Anthony at the jail Friday morning but he would not comment about her reaction to the news.”I’ve been strict about not commenting about her reaction to things like that while she’s going through this process,” Baez said. “She’s holding up. That’s the best I can say right now.”Baez said he would get her help if it was determined that she needed any psychological assistance.

read the articles here:

http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18543583/detail.html#story

71 Comments leave one →
  1. chris permalink
    January 23, 2009 2:27 pm

    everyone needs to pray for the grandparents they are victims also just imagine the torture of loosing your grandchild having been murdered and loosing your daughter also even if she did murder her child it is still their child and a loss so be kind love and pray for george and cindy

  2. Moody Monica permalink
    January 23, 2009 2:32 pm

    This just keeps worse by the day. 😦 Out thoughts and prayers are with them.

  3. Moody Monica permalink
    January 23, 2009 2:34 pm

    I meant to say…Our Thoughts And Prayers Are With Them.
    And I agree with you Chris….I am certain they are completely devastated.

  4. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 23, 2009 2:38 pm

    Chris, prayer is all that can help now. Prayer for their well-being and prayer that this whole thing can go to trial quickly and hopefully have a swift end.

    It does just get worse and worse, Monica. Brad Conway just gave a news interview and it he said the Anthonys have nothing to do with why Caylee hasn’t been buried yet. He said they have been patient but that it is time for her to be buried. He said he last heard it would be probably be the first part of February.

  5. deb permalink
    January 23, 2009 2:54 pm

    I know these poor grandparents are on the verge of losing their minds. I can’t imagine the pain they are in. They will remain in my thoughts and prayers.

  6. pak31 permalink
    January 23, 2009 2:55 pm

    You know, I wondered if he felt like he would be close to Caylee by doing this. She would want him to live, he should not take his own life. So sad.

  7. Cheri permalink
    January 23, 2009 3:17 pm

    I can’t even begain to understand the grif that this family is going thur. I pray for George to find his happy merories with Caylee. The whole in his heart for her with never go away,but he can learn to live with it. I know this, I have lost too.
    Gods speed

  8. Just sayin' permalink
    January 23, 2009 3:28 pm

    If he believed his daughter was innocent he would not be taking his own life.

  9. Missi permalink
    January 23, 2009 3:34 pm

    I hope Casey rots in hell. Look at what she has put her family – not to speak of Caylee – through. She is a self-centered bitch and death is too good for her. She needs to sit in a cell for the rest of her life and think about what she has done to everyone.

  10. Kathie permalink
    January 23, 2009 3:40 pm

    My heart goes out to George BUT….all of this is his daughter’s fault. He must be able to see the writing on the wall; his daughter killed her baby!
    He and Cindy raised CASEY and enabled her to act the way she acts…hmmmm, ALL of them are to blame for this death and they still won’t be honest with themselves and hold Casey accountable.

    We all need to feel sorry for Caylee; not George, Cindy, Lee or Casey. Remember it way little Caylee who was probably looking into her mother’s face and wondering what was happening to her as she died.

    The just punishments will be handed out when they stand in front of God.

    Kathie

  11. Moody Monica permalink
    January 23, 2009 3:44 pm

    My uncle is a retired Sheriff (that in itself is a story I will tell another time) But he said most likely the reason Caylee has not had a funeral yet is that the family wants her cremated and both sides want to wait and make sure there is absolutely nothing left to look into…once she is creamated that is it. Also even if they buried her…they would still want to make sure everyone is finished so she would not have to be dug up.

  12. Moody Monica permalink
    January 23, 2009 3:48 pm

    In my opinion Kathie that is the perfect comment. I agree 100%
    It is so hard for me to think of that poor little darling looking up at her mother as she died with love still in her heart. Casey is a fool…there is not another soul on earth who will ever love her as much as her daughter did.

  13. eye4aeye permalink
    January 23, 2009 4:14 pm

    george still believes casey is innocent by the sound of his suicide note,can you imagine if he had written something about knowing casey killed caylee,and he was really going to go through with his suicide but was found before he could do himself any real harm.

  14. January 23, 2009 4:20 pm

    SHOULD HAVE LET HIM DO HIMSELF IN THIS IS A SIGN OF GUILT AND INVOLVEMENT IN THE MURDER….POOR LITTLE GIRL NEVER HAD A CHANCE

  15. January 23, 2009 4:22 pm

    YOU PEOPLE IN THIS SECTION ARE SO STUPID..DUH PRAY FOR THE FAMILY GIVE ME A BREAK..THEY SHOULD ALL PAY..IE THANK GOD FLORIDA STILL HAS THE ELECTRIC CHAIR.

  16. January 23, 2009 4:26 pm

    I agree with jc fry them all on old sparky

  17. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 4:27 pm

    Even in my angered moments, I have NEVER wished any more harm to this family. Whoever left this cold, heartless message; be wary what you wish for, it could come back on you; ie maybe someone close to you does themself in?? How can people be so cruel? Come on people, rise above such ignorance.

  18. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 23, 2009 4:40 pm

    JC–I don’t believe George’s thoughts of suicide automatically make him guilty. I also don’t believe I’m stupid, but I guess that’s debatable!

    I do believe George could be in such pain over the loss of his grandbaby and for all intents and purposes his daughter, the disintegration of his life as he knew it, and the idea that Casey may be guilty that it drove him to thoughts of self-destruction.

  19. Jon_Hart permalink
    January 23, 2009 4:40 pm

    Did anyone catch the comment by Mr. Conway at his news conference (streamed live on WESH) about what George has to fear most at this point is Cindy? Her anguish turned to anger at him, he said. Wow, how matter-of-factly he stated that really grabbed my attention.

    Hello, Mr. Conway! You mentioned that you thought George was crying out for help. He said he needed to get away from it all (probably not the least of which is all the pressure Cindy is heaping on him). Now, you just straightforwardly say that he needs to be fearing Cindy’s anger, and now an angry Cindy is going to see him at the hospital (and he apparently has to worry about her letting him have it for his embarrassing meltdown). Apparently, George’s cries for help are being ignored still, and matters are only going to get worse for the man.

    I think Cindy’s way of running that household and her fight with Casey the night before Caylee’s murder drove Casey to feel her only option was to kill Caylee. Now Cindy’s continuing anger and unrelenting, controlling personality has seemingly driven George to believe his best option is to get out by killing himself. Yet, she won’t stop. This woman is a danger to those closest to her and needs to be gotten under control by someone who can stand up to her! But I guess it won’t be Mr. Conway. Cindy is still trying to run the show, the only way she knows how, and she doesn’t care what damage she causes to anyone around her.

  20. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 4:43 pm

    This is the most distressing set of events I have ever known. I pray that the entire family finds a place of peace, and are continually surrounded by people who “genuinely” care about them. They have lost so much, and have been pushed into a corner. Have they brought it on to themselves…….some, but why kick a dead horse. They cannot go back in time, and even if they were able to, would it change the mind of a sociopath….probably not.

  21. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 23, 2009 4:45 pm

    I didn’t hear that Jon. I’ll have to go back and look for it.

  22. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 23, 2009 4:46 pm

    very very good points friendly mom.

  23. Mikki permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:12 pm

    It’s all a ROUSE ! That’s for sure. Cindy Anthony and Casey are both SOCIOPATHS people. Cindy Anthony has everyone fooled, “pretending” to be a grieving grandparent, “pretending” to be naive, when she is extremely shrewd and manipulative and knows that her daughter is as heartless and sociopathic as she is. Guarantee…Cindy Anthony told George Anthony to do this. It makes them look more like victims and sociopaths love to be seen as “victims”, meanwhile they leave death and destruction in their wake. If he was suicidal it’s because he knows something but is afraid to reveal it. my guess is that Casey Anthony killed that precious child and all the Anthonys have known this for some time and have been toying with the public and the authorities. The truth will come out. The truth will be stranger than the faction Cindy and Casey Anthony are attempting to create.

  24. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:18 pm

    Cindy may be manipulative……shrewd, I think not. Her earlier statements were of a distraught grandmother desperate to find her missing granddaughter. Co-workers, and others have stated she felt Casey had something to do with this. Realizing your child should be behind bars for life is one thing, helping to put them to death is another. I do not know many parents who would be able to do that. They are still your child, no matter what. I can see turning away from them, but to help kill them….that is a tough one, that I pray I never have to face.

  25. Mikki permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:19 pm

    I hope George Anthony will TELL THE TRUTH. George and Lee Anthony may be the only ones that will come clean with authorities. I think the entire family is in on it. They know exactly what happened. Perhaps George actually discovered the body in Casey’s car upon investigation of the stiffling smell. From what was described, the smell was completely overwhelming for days. Anyone would investigate. Cindy nor Casey will EVER tell the truth. They are BOTH Sociopaths and sociopaths are SERIAL LIARS.

  26. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 23, 2009 5:19 pm

    Mikki

    You know, that actually crossed my mind but I immediately pushed it out of my mind–I guess we’ll see. The truth has had a way of revealing itself in this case. My real feeling is that George is in a lot of pain and needs some help. I’m not sure he would have really killed himself. Who knows, really.

  27. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:21 pm

    I just think that when the facts starting coming out, and they became aware of a pending death penalty, and the desperate need to know your child could not have done this, they started recanting their statements to the public. I am not trying to defend them entirely, because I do not agree with some of their actions. All I am trying to say is desperate people to desperate things.

  28. punkinpie permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:23 pm

    I highly doubt Cindy told George to do this. They have enough to deal with right now. They have problems indeed, but do we need to keep the negative trip going on and on over these two people who are grieving? Voice you anger to Casey, she is an adult, she knew what she was doing. The only person to blame here is Casey and she will pay for the crime someday.

  29. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:23 pm

    My husband and I just said the very thing a few minutes ago. George may be ready to let it all out. He may have tried to kill himself, due to feeling helpless in carrying this burden.

  30. Mikki permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:26 pm

    Look I know two Sociopaths…they are Cerbral Narcissists just like Cindy Anthony. There words are always extremely convincing. They “play dumb” when necessary, are “strong” when necessary, “pretend” weakness when it’s called for, and “play” victim in needed. Words are hollow. Watch her. Sociopaths are some of the smoothest talkers in the world…Ted Bundy (notorious Serial Killer) was actually said by many to be “funny” and “extremely charming”. Cindy Anthony is the Head Monster…the apple did not fall far from the tree. Neighbors are even aware of her and Casey’s “Power Struggles” and could even hear them arguing all the time. Cindy Anthony is not dumb at all. The two sociopahs I know call each other sociopaths but they join together in countless diabolical and destructive schemes. It’s what they do. It is human nature to project onto others, what we believe they should feel. It is also human nature to think the best of people. But, these are not humans we are talking about…these are feelingless, soul-less monsters. I hope the truth comes out.

  31. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:26 pm

    I agree punkinpie, kicking someone when they are down is productive. Put anger and blame where it belongs. Casey will pay for her crimes.

  32. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:27 pm

    that should say NOT productive, my bad.

  33. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:29 pm

    I just do not understand how anyone could try and hurt this family any further. What is there to gain? What will it solve?

  34. Mikki permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:38 pm

    You “presume” their are feelings involved. Sociopaths…narcissists literally have no feelings at all. When you see pictures of Casey smiling at Caylee…kissing her, etc. It is just that “a picture”. She discarded that poor child in a trash bag like garbage after her mother Cindy Anthony and her had had an argument about Caylee (according to Lee) in which Cindy choked Casey and Casey left the house. The child was never seen again.; Casey killed Caylee because she had become the center of attention and not her, also to get back at Cindy…a classic Socipathic Power Play.

    Friendlymom, Again, you are projecting onto Cindy Anthony what you believe is normal in these circumstances…”extreme grief.” This is natural for people to do. Often people will defend sociopaths ferverently…this only helps them seem more like a “victim”. You don’t know that Cindy Anthony has any feelings at all. Sociopaths do NOT feel.

  35. Mikki permalink
    January 23, 2009 5:51 pm

    You should look up the book “Malignant Self Love” by Dr. Sam Valkin. There are chapters even on-line. In this book, you will find an identical clinical parallel to both of these two Sociopaths…Cindy and Casey.

    Cindy Anthony is a Cerebral Narcissist – they use their “brains” to control and manipulate. This can included “acting” dumb when they need to. It’s all a “performance”…Anyone that knows one, knows that she has ALL the signs of this diagnosis. They are MASTER MANIPULATORS.

    Casey Anthony is a “Somatic Narcissist” – they use their “looks” or sex appeal to manipulate. Hence, the extreme and promiscuous sex-life of Casey. Including the fact that she slept with the very first investigative Police Officer on the scene…and then a subsequent Officer who was fired from the force for sleeping with her. Not to mention the countless “boyfriends” and questionable paternity of the beautiful child.

  36. detwill39 permalink
    January 23, 2009 6:05 pm

    Just finished reading all the messages…

    Mikki~~I agree with alot of what you said.

    JMO~~George did not want to commit suicide at that time…He was making a loud cry out for help. Had he planned to end his life, he would not have sent the text messages but just left the suicide letter.

    George is a broken man and has had his heart ripped out. He has probably been facing alot of anger for being so frank during his interviews with LE and the FBI.

    Do I think George may carry out his plan at a future time? My answer is yes! Your mind and emotions can only deal with so much before the breaking point. This man has had more than his share to deal with and I am truly worried for him.

  37. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 23, 2009 6:05 pm

    Mikki–George isn’t a sociopath. His emotions are real.

    I’m not sure about Cindy, but I agree about Casey. Go back and look at the pictures of Cindy. She looks like she is in extreme pain. I think she’s a controller and has fought to control Casey without success her whole life. Cindy looks to me like the classic enabler.

  38. January 23, 2009 6:06 pm

    My feelings for George and Cindy are about the same as Casey’s. (Not hard to figure that out). However this could have all been avoided if Cindy was not the pathological liar she is and twisted this sad circumstance into a media circus to start with.

    We have seen what other parents and grand parents do in tragic loss of life crimes. Why should these two be any different. Instead of welcoming the community to help, they welcomed crooks and fought everyone. They openly made comments that infuriated most of us and seemed to protect Casey knowing she lied about everything.

    George knows the truth, he has as much as said it to LE at the beginning but has been brain washed. This latest news does not surprise me in the least, I expected it although a bit different.

    Oh, what happened about Caylee??? Has she been forgotten??? She is the one I feel sorry about.

  39. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 23, 2009 6:06 pm

    Detwill–I agree with you. George needs to be watched closely.

  40. Just sayin' permalink
    January 23, 2009 6:10 pm

    Very interesting Mikki! Describes both Anthony women to a tee, doesn’t it?

  41. Molly permalink
    January 23, 2009 6:15 pm

    I think Baez can order that “psychological assistance” any time now.

  42. Mikki permalink
    January 23, 2009 6:18 pm

    itsamysterytome,

    I agree, Neither George or Lee are Sociopaths. They are men who have been dealing with two sociopaths for years. It has taken a toil.

    Cindy is definitely a “functioning” Sociopath. She exhibits all the signs. George and Lee are classic “Co-dependant” enablers. They make instant excuses for the actions of these women and will do anything they say. They live in “denial” to keep the peace and to not have to take the brutal truth. George is struggling with his conscience. He knows more than we know, but is possibly experiencing “fear” in telling (Cindy’s control) and justice for his innocent granddaughter that was born into this evil family.

  43. Paul in PG BC permalink
    January 23, 2009 6:59 pm

    George next time take your gun with you,you no what I mean eat it!!screw you bud!!

  44. Jon_Hart permalink
    January 23, 2009 7:19 pm

    I’m in between “Paul in PG BC” and “friendlymom” as far as sympathy for George.

    As for Cindy, however, I’m with Mikki in the no sympathy category. This is not a grieving grandmother who deserves sympathy. This is a sociopath whose daughter became a sociopath because of Cindy’s parenting. The power struggle between the two sociopaths led directly to the daughter killing the granddaughter. George was a bystander who feels extremely guilty he wasn’t a better father and grandfather and stood by and let this happen.

    Cindy, on the other hand, as Miiki pointed out, we cannot project our normal-person emotions onto a functioning sociopath like her. She was/is the primary source of the extreme dysfunction in that family that created a sociopathic baby-killer.

  45. Paul in PG BC permalink
    January 23, 2009 7:23 pm

    Take the WHACKJOB with you!!

  46. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 7:24 pm

    Mikki, how much psychology have you studied? Do you have experience with mental illness; from a medical stand point? I would completely agree that Casey displays “classic” narcissistic personality disorder, as well as sociopathic behavior. These are Type B personality disorders. Cindy, does not display any of these characteristics. Co-dependent, enabler, yes. We “normal” people are put under extreme conditions, they make act irrational. I do not agree with much of what they have done, but as someone with experience, I have to call it as I see it; not assume based on irrational behavior displayed under harsh circumstances. She is not a sociopath, but she does need counseling, immediately.

  47. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 7:30 pm

    I am not implying I feel sorry for Cindy. I do feel her lose. All I am saying is she is not a sociopath. I feel she is a control freak, who pushed her family to a breaking point. Casey, like so many mental ill people, was balancing on the edge naturally. She didn’t need much of a push. George withstood a bit more.

  48. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 23, 2009 8:02 pm

    I agree with you friendly mom. It didn’t take much to push Cindy over the cliff she’s been precariously clinging too for many years thanks to the lovely Casey. IMO, she’s lost it completely. She can’t help George because she can’t help herself. George probably did himself a huge favor. In the hospital, he will be able to talk about his pain and someone will actually listen.

  49. friendlymom permalink
    January 23, 2009 8:28 pm

    I agree mystery. They all need help. Even though they knew Casey had problems (that would probably wind her ass in trouble) I am sure they NEVER imagined she would hurt anyone. How many parents want to believe something like that about their child? I am not implying that there were serious family issues. I believe we all know there are, but Cindy is not a sociopath; neither is George or Lee. Casey is however. She is a classic case. I would not be surprised, if someday her picture is not in a psychology text book one day. I do feel that Cindy, in a desperate attempt to control her surroundings, learned to over-look and completely deny some realities in order to convince outsiders that she was still in control of her wonderful life. That is not a sociopath. It is actually a sign of a weak personality and low self-esteem.

  50. Diane permalink
    January 23, 2009 8:29 pm

    Well, I do feel sympathy for George. I must admit, however, that when first reported the word ‘ruse’ came to mind. Then I saw his face. The man looks totally distraught. he’s obviously in acute pain & has aged 10 years since Caylee’s remains were found.

    There has been a struggle in my mind as to whether the GP’s were helping Casey cover her tracks. On the one hand, this is their daughter. So, what would we do if in a similar predicament (God forbid!)? It’s not so easy to blurt out an answer. the situation is so complex.
    On the other hand, they have a responsibility to their grandbaby- who was innocent & completely vulnerable. Then there are the lies and the manipulations that are presented in black & white in those discovery docs. Not to mention, the profit & money grubbing that has apparently transpired. When it was reported that he was upset because he was ‘broke’- among other things- it made me wince. Always about the money, it seems.

    Sorry for the rambling post. I guess what I’m trying to convey here is that I empathize w/ ALL of the posters’ opinions presented tonight. I have felt the same way & have run the gamut of emotions from A-Z. This case has taken a toll on me, & I know I’m not the only one (not directly involved in the case- just Jane & Joe Q. Public).

    God, please let justice be served. Soon.

  51. MAND permalink
    January 23, 2009 8:49 pm

    George needs to stay in the hospital for a few weeks..away from Cindy and getting the help he so badly seems to need.I doubt George would have taken his life this time..he was crying out for help..he knew they would be looking for him..thus the phone calls.
    Their life has to be a total wreck..neither one working..bills piling up and together 24/7..and the pressure from the case…Caylee still not buried..and on and on.
    I heard George was to go on a job interview that morning..he didn’t go..how do you look for a job with all this going on?? George is a weak man to begin with..Cindy seems to have carried the burdens of the family..George’s employment record is not good..and then he lost some $30.ooo..while recovering from knee surgery..so Cindy has been the one in charge for a long time. She was angry that he did this but someone talked to her and she was going to visit him…if and when he comes home how is that going to work out?
    George needs someone to care for him and Cindy needs someone strong to help her in what she does..no match here.
    Let’s see how much KC has learned in her Bible reading..can she help her family from certain destruction and tell the truth? Will she put an end to this all about me attitude and help her Dad..? Probably not.

  52. January 23, 2009 9:06 pm

    I have read all of the above posts, i agree with some and diagree with others.. IMO George has been in a very unpleasant and dangerous inviroment from the day he married Cindy, she is a sociopath and then came along Casey. From all the research and material I have studied and read on this ilness I have saw things in a different light. George has lived his life covering up and doing things he knew was wrong in order to just try and live a life without fighting and confortations. He and Lee have both been in a very unstable and dangerous situation from the beginning. Until you have dealt with and loved a sociopath you have no idea what a terrifying life it is. You will and do, do things you would never do in order to calm,difuse,and stop the uncontroable rage of a sociopath in order to protect the one most innocent person that cannot defend herself CAYLEE. I do believe that GEROGE loved that child ore than anyone and after she was born the irratic behavior of Cindy and Casey only got worse, he felt helpless because he knew what might and could happen. I have thought this after speaking to many parents/grandparents of a sociopath child. Geroge fely helpless his life as was Lee’s was in danger also. After Casey killed Caylee George harbers all the guilt because he was the one in the family that realized all along what could happen. He knows the truth and maybe he did not intend to kill himself, only looking for a way out and seek the help that he needs. IMO he will be the one that comes forward with the truth, he will do the right thing. Although to late, as he now knows this and is so guiltridden George will be the only one to find justice for CAYLEE. Is he guilty of her death, yes, in the way that he didn’t get that child out of that situation like he knew he should have. Should he be charged yes, but that is nothing compared to what he has to live with each day. Until anyone is a parent or spouse to a sociopath no one can even begin to imagine the hell you go through. I wish him the best and pray that he will be CAYLEE’S voice and CINDY?CASEY can rot in hell….JMO

  53. January 23, 2009 9:17 pm

    So sorry about the spelling I am very sick with the peanut butter poison…did my best….throw any p.b items you have trust me…they will make you feel like your dying..i do…jason’ mom

  54. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 23, 2009 9:35 pm

    Jason’s Mom–I hope you feel better soon.

    I have said before that I believe Cindy has spent her life going behind her sociopath daughter cleaning up her messes. The messes got bigger and bigger. Bigger than Cindy could fix.

    Friendly Mom is correct IMO, Cindy has very low self-esteem (not too sure about the weak personality–I think she has an overbearing personality.)

    I’ve gone back and looked at Cindy’s appearance over the months since Caylee’s death. I’ve also looked at Casey’s. Cindy is not a sociopath–Just look at her pictures. She is SUFFERING. Is Casey? Only because she’s locked up and can’t go on living her life. Doesn’t appear to have affected her health one iota.

    Diane, I agree with you. Just look at George. I don’t think he’s a good enough actor to fake that kind of pain. (remember him on Larry King?)

    Mand, I don’t think Casey will lift a finger to fix this situation. Never. They’ll all be dead and buried and she’ll be complaining that no one understands her.

  55. MAND permalink
    January 23, 2009 10:13 pm

    No I don’t think she will either..it would be nice if she could feel some remorse but that is not possible.
    George and Cindy are suffering..they both need help..George is ready..I don’t know about Cindy..I doubt she will change..it’s not in her make-up…she is a very dominating..forceful personality..stubborn and controlling..this type will cut their noses off to spite their faces before they would consider changing.

  56. January 24, 2009 12:52 am

    Way to go Kathie!!!!!!!! who raised casey?????? who tells lie after lie after lie after lie. if he could tell the truth, it might help. only one without a voice anymore is CAYLEE. she always gets lost in the anthony drama. its always tTHEM, THEM, THEM. the old saying THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who helped Caylee, when she needed it!!!!!!!!!!

  57. Jon_Hart permalink
    January 24, 2009 12:56 am

    Weak personality and low self-esteem? I don’t think we’re talking about the same Cindy Anthony anymore?

    Sociopaths can suffer. Melanie McGuire (the nurse, who was dearly beloved by her patients at the fertility clinic, and who sawed up her husband’s body, packed him in 3 different suitcases and tossed him off a bridge just because she wanted to get rid of him without a custody dispute) undoubtedly loved her children and suffered very visibly and greatly when she lost her kids. That doesn’t preclude her from being a sociopath. But sociopaths suffer differently than normal folks. Their suffering stems from a loss of control with which they cannot deal.

    Anyway, it doesn’t matter whether we label Cindy a sociopath or a grandmother with low self-esteem or however we characterize her severe issues. She was the dominant personality in that family who created the majority of the extreme dysfunction that led to Caylee’s murder and George’s suicidal intentions yesterday. So, when I hear that she’s angry at George instead of being compassionate and understanding of her husband who’s teetering on the brink, I once again think how far she has strayed from the realm of normal human emotions and capacity to care for others. I think she may be nearly as sick as Casey.

    I guess she deserves prayer, but as Mand said, I don’t think there’s any chance Cindy will ever change. (Just as there’s no changing a sociopath despite whatever treatment or therapy you may give them — that’s just how they are.) That’s just how Cindy is, and she raised a daughter a lot like herself.

  58. Paul in PG BC permalink
    January 24, 2009 1:35 am

    Even he still does not believe after all that LE has found and stacked against the Crazyone,well Georgieboy,ya got no balls.If he don’t think crazycasey did it then who,it;s got to be SiNdy or Lee.This guy is an ex-cop,he would know how to stage something like this and thats just what I think he did,another anthony ploy make the movie a little more dramatic,nope the finally goes boom and yer dead!!ate the gun….

  59. Annette permalink
    January 24, 2009 5:04 am

    JC Have you ever had a need for a little mercy?

  60. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 24, 2009 7:52 am

    You’re right Jon. No matter what label you slap on Cindy, she was the matriarch of the family and everyone marched to her drum. They all lived in her world and most of the family’s problems were created by her.

    But, she couldn’t have foreseen or even imagined what Casey did. Casey’s the monster here, not Cindy. Cindy loved Caylee and Casey–well, if we’re to believe she’s a sociopath, too, (and I still don’t)
    she considered them both to be her possessions.

    As the leader of the family, Cindy has to take credit for the path the whole lot of them took after they found the car. BUT none of them had to follow.

    Lee and George both started out trying to find the real truth–somewhere along the line they lost their nerve or were so afraid of (or for) Cindy that they backed off and backed up her crazy claims.

  61. January 24, 2009 7:57 am

    I have read so many comments and news articles about this case that my head is spinning.Everyone has an opinion, and thank god we live in a country where we are able to express that opinion , whether I agree or disagree with everyone else.I cannot speak from the standpoint of having my child in jail for murder,or on the loss of grandchild. I don’t know what it would be like to have my every move and emotion played out in the media or criticized on websites, I can however speak about the death of a child . Everyone has used the comments,”I cannot imagine what it would be like to lose a child”. That is one of life’s experiences that we all stop ourselves from imagining ,because just imagining brings on pain,our mind stops us from going any further than saying the words. My son Connor was 2 1/2 when he passed away,not by violence but form illness. Even when he was 1 year old and the doctors said he may not live, I didn’t believe it.How could I, he looked perfect and acted normal,he was walking and talking and was so funny,my mind never let me believe he would be gone.When it happened, we were in a nice clean hospital room. I had a choice to take him off of life support and hold him when he died,or have a full code,where they tried to get him back.When his blood pressure started to drop I opted to hold him. To this day I cannot remember the physical pain of his birth,but I do remember the physical pain of his death. The words ,having your heart ripped out are about right,I would curl up in a fetal position and grab my abdomen the pain was so intenese,I would cry myself to sleep. I never thought I would commit suicide,yet the thoughts, how can I go on,crossed my mind. I remember thinking, if the truck coming down the street jumped the curb and hit me, that would be okay,I would get to be with my baby. Just because my son died from illness does not make him any less gone than Caylee. The pain is the same,but the circumstances are different. When you love a child, as I did mine and George did Caylee,the physical and mental pain can be overwhelming.Unfortunately, George has to live with the anguish of what should have been done differently. I did everything I could for my son,there isn’t anything I would have done differently.I cannot imagine the burden he has to bear. I didn’t mention Cindy and Casey for I feel that those two are not capable of feeling the pain George is going thru.

  62. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 24, 2009 8:26 am

    er margie

    Thank you so much for your post. You gave some real insight as to what someone would feel at the loss of their baby. You are right, just the thought of something happening to my grandchild or one of my children makes me almost physically ill. I am so sorry for your loss.

    I agree with you that Casey is not capable of feeling the kind of pain you have felt. It’s clear she didn’t love her daughter in a normal way.

    I agree with you about George–he will have to live not only with the pain of loss, but also the pain of regret. A very sad combination

  63. trensota permalink
    January 24, 2009 12:19 pm

    ER Margie, thank you for sharing, and giving us a needed reality check. We must humbly thank God that most of us have no idea what the Anthonys are dealing with, and you gave us a glimpse.

    Mystery, thanks for your compassionate remarks. When I read so much anger and condemnation floating around, it feels hurtful and discouraging. I like to think that most people are more compassionate, kinder, merciful than to kick a man when he’s down!

  64. yankeegirl1 permalink
    January 24, 2009 12:27 pm

    George Anthony broke down on TV and wept early on. He vomited at the police station. He’s the only one of the four of the Anthony adults who genuinely has normal emotions. He married a control freak, and she spawned two hateful children and the three of them have no doubt made George’s life a living hell for years. Then this, the ultimate mess his daughter dumps them all into. And Cindy excuses her daughter, for the billionth time. Poor George: I think he genuinely loves his family and can’t bring himself to admit what Casey has done , but he is aware of it on some level and so he is terribly conflicted. He no doubt feels completely alone in this world, hence the bizarre behavior. No, I don’t think he meant to kill himself. I think he was at the end of his strength and was saying “help me.”

  65. yankeegirl1 permalink
    January 24, 2009 12:39 pm

    There’s also the issue of a woman claiming to be George’s first wife. She wrote on a blog that he was a terrible liar. True or false? We don’t know. Anybody can say anything on the internet, and people will pick it up and believe it. I believe in giving people a chance, and a second chance. We’re all sinners in the eyes of the Lord.

  66. MAND permalink
    January 24, 2009 8:46 pm

    I did try and check the first wife story out and I could not find a marriage license for that marriage..she didn’t post it was her sister.
    Also the time line does not fit as I remember.
    You’re right anyone can/and do say anything.

  67. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 24, 2009 9:30 pm

    Well said, Yankeegirl1. Thanks for your insight. I agree with you–George wasn’t going to kill himself. He was crying out for help, and I pray he is able to get that help in the hospital.

    I had heard the stuff about the first wife, too, but I think it wasn’t true.

  68. callenton permalink
    January 24, 2009 11:13 pm

    Thanks a lot for the details. Very strange that the attorney was the one to call… not Cindy. Anyway, I am going to repeat what I posted elsewhere.

    For me it all comes down to personal responsibility and choice:

    1) The Anthonys have the choice to live or not live their lives in the way they see fit. Caylee did not.

    2) The Anthonys had the choice to let or not let their daughter, known by them to be irresponsible and dishonest, walk out of their house with their two-year-old granddaughter and then not know her whereabouts for 31 days (only bothering to track down their daughter when they became angry over her getting their car towed). Caylee did not.

    3) The Anthonys had the choice to ask or not ask to meet and visit the home of the woman they had been told had been responsible for the primary care of their granddaughter for more than two years, including regular overnights, to be certain it was a safe and proper environment for her. Caylee did not.

    4) The Anthonys still have the choice to support or not support the true victim in this case instead of their daughter, who has undeniably and unapologetically demonstrated a total lack of concern for their granddaughter, and stop publicly defending her indefensible actions. Caylee does not.

    Anything that ANYONE does or has done to take attention away from the unimaginable tragedy of the murder of a defenseless two-year-old child is unforgivable.

    I certainly cannot imagine how difficult it would be for each of them to accept their share of the personal responsibility for the repeated failure to ensure the safety of their granddaughter, resulting in her death. I also cannot imagine how difficult it must be to know that the best they can do for her now is ensure that justice is served. I do know, however, that it matters. Failure to take personal responsibility now and do whatever they can to respect her life and honor her memory would be incredibly selfish, and yet another injustice to Caylee.

    Everyone who has the choice and is capable of personal responsibility needs to run every single decision they make through the filter of WHAT IS BEST FOR CAYLEE? from now on. It is literally the least they can do. Stop making it about anything else. That is all that matters, and ever should have mattered.

    Speaking of which, there is a video out there that I think says it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8sx5O6SsM

    We can certainly all have sympathy for what these people are going through. It really is unimaginable, but does not compare in any way to what that little girl went through. I don’t think that any of us can honestly believe that everything was fine up until an unfortunate fight on June 15. God only knows what that child went through prior to that. I can only hope that another tragedy does not take place, only because it would again diminish the attention and sympathy for the true victim in this case.

    I would also like to point out that if a 57-year-old former cop really wanted to kill himself he’d be dead right now. Not many seriously suicidal people text their friends and family ahead of time. He’s also a little recognizable to be checking into local motels. I am glad he did, though. He certainly doesn’t deserve to die and that choice would only serve to allow him to avoid personal responsibility, again. It would do nothing to help Caylee. He clearly needs help dealing with all of this and probably hasn’t been able to ask for a second of it, considering the dynamics of that family. So hopefully now he’ll get it. I just hope he doesn’t forget who matters most.

  69. DebWV permalink
    January 25, 2009 10:45 pm

    George knows he lied about seeing Caylee on the 16th,this is haunting him. He needs to stand up and tell the truth! Cindy & Lee are never going to stand up! There needs to be justice for Caylee and she needs to be laid to rest.

  70. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 26, 2009 5:59 am

    callenton–this is one of the best posts I’ve read. You are right. What has happened to the Anthonys comes down to a series of personal choices they have made–irresponsible choices that have reaped grave consequences.

    IMO, Caylee was the least of their concerns–a distant 3rd behind their money problems and their troubled daughter, Casey. Yes they loved her but no, they did not protect her. It has been made obvious by the documents recently released that they were aware of Casey’s problems, yet, they did nothing to protect their granddaughter. That’s not a criticism, it’s a fact.

    All of you that say, how dare we criticize these people, we haven’t walked in their shoes, read Callenton’s post. They had choices. No, we don’t know how we would act after such a terrible tragedy–but take a look at how they behaved BEFORE Caylee disappeared. I don’t know about you, but no way would I have acted in such a negligent manner.

  71. itsamysterytome permalink*
    January 26, 2009 6:02 am

    DebWV–I think he lied, too. Caylee was found with white shorts and a little top (color unknown) On the 15th with her PaPa, she was wearing white shorts and a little blue top. IMO, George lied about seeing her on the 16th and lied in that elaborate description about what she and Casey were wearing.

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