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Does Jose Baez have a strategy for his defense of Casey Anthony?

February 2, 2009

A few hours after Judge Strickland gave Jose Baez’ defense team permission to access the crime scene, they were Johnny on the spot. ( for a change)  According to them, this will be the first of many visits made to the site.  They are looking for clues–any clues that might support the theory that someone planted the body, or that could point to anyone other than their client, Casey Anthony as the killer.    Did LE overlook any clues at the scene that might help in Casey’s defense?  The general consensus is, no, of course not. (But aren’t you glad to see Baez follow up on something for a change? I was beginning to think he felt his only job was to piss and moan about the prosecution and the media!)

Baez, an inexperienced(in spite of what he would like you to believe) 3 year attorney has yet to lay out his defense of Casey Anthony.   Over the past months he has done nothing much– other than smirk and posture and make smug statements echoing the Anthony’s theories: First, with Casey’s story that  Zanny the nanny did it, and  later, when it was apparent the nanny never existed, by suggesting cryptically there was a deeper darker  force at work in Caylee’s disappearance.  Like Cindy,  he has said that the truth will come out at trial and has insinuated that the real story will be a stunner. It’s apparently SO shocking that it will cause us all to go down on our knees to beg forgiveness for even entertaining the idea that the saintly martyr, Casey, could have possibly hurt her own daughter.  We will all know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Casey Anthony was and is the “Mother Of The Year”–at the trial.

And what exactly could that truth be as far as a defense?  Well, Baez isn’t saying, but,  he had to be delighted when it was discovered that Roy Kronk, the meter reader who found Caylee’s remains, had contacted LE twice back in August in regards to the same location. No one saw a body. It gave credence to the mysterious conspiracy theory by suggesting the body was moved and it couldn’t have been moved by an imprisoned Casey.  Baez’ latest motion requesting information about TES searchers rumored to have been in the same area seems to be aimed at supporting that  theory.   Did someone or some people take Caylee to “teach Casey a lesson” and then later dump her body near her house to implicate her?  Perhaps she owed them money, she scammed the wrong person, she was up to her eyeballs in a prostitution ring or illegal drugs or a gang or….??  It only takes one juror with reasonable doubt.

On the other hand, maybe ex-fiance, Jesse, took her or her real father snatched her.  Baez has also requested Jesse Grund’s proof of non-paternity. Is he part of the conspiracy theory or is this an alternate scenario?  The Anthonys have, almost from the beginning, pointed an accusatory finger at Jesse.  Casey, too, by telling her parents to stay away from him in a jailhouse conversation.  Apparently Baez is considering  jumping on the “Jesse did it” bandwagon as well. The trouble with that is–  it has already been established that Jesse met Casey AFTER she became pregnant with Caylee.  Even if he were the father what motive did he have to kill his own child?  Besides Jesse, George and Cindy have tried to throw several of Casey’s other friends under the bus, and if the information leaked from George’s recent suicide note are correct, they’re still trying. Again, where’s the motive?  Was Caylee’s vocabulary getting big enough to rat someone out for something??  It only takes one juror with reasonable doubt.

All the above could be plausable defenses–except for the white elephant that’s firmly planted in the room.  Casey Anthony didn’t report her daughter missing for 31 days and then only because her mother, Cindy, finally took the bull by the horns.  By all accounts,  Casey showed no signs of stress and she exhibited no questionable behavior around her friends. There was no indication that someone was threatening her in any way.  Everyone, right down to her current boyfriend, Tony Lazaro, was shocked that Caylee was missing.  Casey partied, went on a crime spree, and in general behaved like someone that didn’t have a care in the world. Yet, her baby had vanished. When confronted by police, she lied.  She lied without batting an eyelid.  She refused to help them find her missing baby.  What mother would do that??

So, does that mean maybe Casey is just crazy? Under the circumstances that could easily be a believable defense.  Unfortunately for her, being a sociopath, as many think she is, is not considered a mental illness, and she certainly doesn’t fit the profile of an Andrea Yates.  In any case, insanity is the hardest defense to prove, so I doubt Baez’ is ready to put it on the table yet.

What does all this say? Unless I’ve missed some pertinent piece to this puzzle, it says to me that even after all these months,  Jose Baez isn’t keeping his defense strategy under wraps–he just plain doesn’t have one yet!  He has brought in a million dollar dream team, supposedly the best of the best,  and they are still grasping at straws.   If Mr. Baez has his client’s best interest at heart as he says he does, then, unless he really is sitting on a bombshell,  he only has a few options left.  He can either try to make a deal with the prosecution–which they may or may not be willing to do at this point–or he can advise Casey to wait until after the trial and scream incompetent counsel.  His chances for stardom dim considerably if he makes a deal, and  I don’t think his rather inflated ego will allow him to advise her to do the later, so where does that leave Casey Anthony’s defense?  I don’t know about you, but it’s a mystery to me!

107 Comments leave one →
  1. LVSusie permalink
    February 2, 2009 12:17 pm

    Very well said!!

  2. Suzie Jane permalink
    February 2, 2009 12:33 pm

    Perfectly put, Mystery – kudos!

    I would love to hear what everyone’s guess of the “truth” that will come out that will shock and awe everyone and drop us to our knees??????

    My guess is Caylee’s paternity….

  3. deb permalink
    February 2, 2009 12:39 pm

    I second that, very well said mystery.

  4. Suzie Jane permalink
    February 2, 2009 12:43 pm

    Mystery – what kind of info leaked about George’s suicide note??

  5. niecey456 permalink
    February 2, 2009 12:49 pm

    No, he has no case at all. They are completely grasping at straws. I think this could be a set up for a mistrial, or for an appeal for ineffective counsel. The reason I feel that way, is because he’s making all the money he can off of this, and I don’t think he’s done yet. Anyone hear him whining about Caylee Sunshine??? Nope! It even looks as though Todd Black could actually be Jose Baez. Jose’s wife’s name is closely associated with the mystery guy. I believe tied together by the realestate he’s generating from. Her name is on it. Hmmmmmmmmmm……………
    Great Post Mystery!!!

  6. Boston permalink
    February 2, 2009 12:51 pm

    Mystery-A great post. His defense will be something that eventually sticks and one juror believes it to be true. One little morsel called resonable doubt. He will go after anything reasonable or unreasonable. Any little morsel that would feed the hungry juor who just didn’t get enough evidence to make him throw up.

    It’s his job to try but he is way out on a cliff looking for a life line. Maybe he should call a friend.

  7. Kari permalink
    February 2, 2009 12:58 pm

    The only defense I can imagine for her is probably the one they will eventually wind up with–there was someone much scarier than Zannie involved.

    Like you said, some drug pusher or gang lord, and that’s why she couldn’t tell anyone the truth.

    This would’ve been nearly believable, if Caylee’s body hadn’t been found. Finding Caylee dead would have meant Casey had no more reason not to tell the world everything… …if she had anything to tell.

    We’re assuming she doesn’t, that there is no big gun behind this, so that means she now needs to make up a new story about this bad guy, with specific details, better than the Zannie story. And Baez might be hinting around to her about what sort of person might commit such a crime, ostensibly waiting for her to remember all the details…

    Now we’ll see if she still has the heart to go on lying, and lying bigger and badder lies than ever? Or will she have grown tired of the whole ordeal and settle for a simple “I don’t know anything about it!” defense? I think Hell will freeze over before she confesses. Unless it’s in OJ’s ‘If I Had Done It’ format. She might narrate how she thinks whoever did it, did it…

  8. February 2, 2009 1:02 pm

    I hope he is not so stupid(well, I really do hope is this stupid) that he believes Casey hook, line and sinker and bases her defense on what she has secretly told him. We all know by now the stories she can weave with subtle hints of truths included. Another grand fabrication could be coming to lead/confuse the jury away from the facts, testimony and evidence in the hope of having that one needle in a haystack juror that is manipulated to cast the sole not guilty by reasonable doubt. Casey has had plenty of time alone and with Baez to really spin a whopper of story….What do you think out there??

  9. HATCAT permalink
    February 2, 2009 1:05 pm

    I think Mr. Baez took on more than he can handle. I believe the best he can hope for is a
    hung jury. But, I do feel she will be tried again.
    I have followed this case from the beginning and
    Jesse Grund is not involved in any way.
    Yes, there is Cindy Anthony on video, speaking to LE saying she thinks he had something to do
    with the disappearance of little Caylee. There is
    also, video of Casey telling parents and Lee to stay away from Jesse etc. However, there is that phone call to Jesse from Casey on July 4 telling
    him not to speak to or take any calls from her family. It is just another ploy of a sociopath trying to keep particular “people” from speaking to each other.

  10. February 2, 2009 1:06 pm

    Also, notice how the victim, Caylee is almost never mentioned by the defense in every interview, etc. They are trying their best to steer everyone’s attention away about what this trial and investigation is all about, which is Justice for this little girl who had the horror and last moments of her life watching her mother kill her!

  11. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 1:23 pm

    Suzie Jane–It was said that George wrote he still believed Casey was innocent and made “dark veiled references” to some of her friends. You can read it at the post below.

    I also think Jose feels the paternity of Caylee’s father will have some bearing in all this.

  12. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 1:25 pm

    Thanks LV Susie and Deb!
    If they can really tie him to Todd Black in the way you’re suggesting, he will be out long before the trial starts. I definitely think his silence about the Caylee Sunshine doll is damning.

  13. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 1:32 pm

    LOL–He needs to call in all his lifelines on this one Boston, and even then he’s not likely to pull this one out. Even Geraldo has suggested he should take a deal.

    Very good point, Kari–The big bad wolf stopped being a good defense after Caylee was found. The reason for keeping quiet was no longer valid. Of course, she could say she is now protecting her remaining family.

    Does she have the heart to go on? She doesn’t have a heart–at least not a normal one, so who knows. Somethin’ tells me she will never give up the ghost.

  14. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 1:36 pm

    diecaseydie–I think Casey has infinite ways to spin a story and I think she will weave and spin until the bitter end.

    Hatcat–I agree, her phone call to Jesse trumps Cindy and Casey’s later statements. It perfectly shows her trying to manipulate the people around her to her advantage.

  15. HATCAT permalink
    February 2, 2009 1:40 pm

    A plea deal was offered back in the summer, before Caylee was found.
    Don’t think another one will be offered.
    The evidence that has been released is terrible for the defense. Just think about what has not
    been released, yet.

  16. Patti permalink
    February 2, 2009 1:50 pm

    At the beginning of this case, I tried to believe that Casey was telling the truth (lol). I thought MAYBE she is just young and stupid, and let someone take Caylee, or she sold Caylee.

    BUT…..when the information about decomposition in the trunk of her car came out…BAM, that girl is GUILTY! She was the one driving the car during that time….and made comments to friends about the smell. She also refused to let George look into the trunk. It will surprise me if any jurors can overlook this, and I’ve got my fingers crossed that she will be found guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt!

  17. Suzie Jane permalink
    February 2, 2009 1:53 pm

    Thanx for the article, Mystery.

    What is your take on the authenticity of George’s suicide attempt? I would really hate to think it was a mere diversion stunt.

    Egads, what is going on with this case……

  18. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 1:54 pm

    You’re right Patti, and I hope Hatcat is right and the prosecution has much more to reveal.

    I don’t think Baez or even his dream team will be able to overcome the evidence that has been released. There is just nothing that points to someone else being involved–other than Lee’s request for criminal immunity. And I think it will turn out that his involvement was after the dirty deed was done.

  19. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 2:00 pm

    Suzie Jane,

    I know George has tried to spin the truth and has outright lied about some things, but IMO his suicide attempt was real. Maybe he didn’t plan to really go through with it and that’s why he made the phone calls and text messages, but I think he had a major breakdown.

  20. Suzie Jane permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:06 pm

    Can you imagine what is was like for George in that house?

    Lee moved back in, Cindy cracking, Caylee’s empty bedroom, Casey’s empty bedroom……

    Pretty scary. Personally I think he’s much better off hospitalized. How sad.

  21. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 2:10 pm

    Yeah, I think he just flat couldn’t take it anymore. I hope he’s getting the help he needs and is finding the strength he will need to face whatever the future is going to bring.

  22. Suzie Jane permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:12 pm

    Mystery, it seems the duct tape and heart sticker was the straw that did it.

    It does paint a very gruesome picture. BBL

  23. ostella permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:16 pm

    Howdy everybody!

    I think our Tubby Pee Wee Herman is stuck on the idea, “if you can’t convince people with facts, then dazzle them with distractions!” His obsession with the limelight will be his undoing…I really want OCSO to investigate WHO Todd Black really is, and kick the circus master out of the ring. I just don’t see Baez being sharp enough to get away with this farce. Simply put, he just aint got the skills to pay the bills. Sometimes I wonder if he doesn’t have Johnny Cochrane’s shrunken head on a shrine in his closet, and if he “prays” to it every night to help him navigate this case. He seems bound and determined to mimic his defense. It’s really pathetic…

  24. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 2:16 pm

    I think that too, Suzie–but then I can’t figure out why he would write in his suicide note that he believed Casey was innocent.

  25. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 2:20 pm

    Hi Ostella–What a picture you just painted! I don’t know whether to laugh or cry–maybe I’ll just laugh til I cry! Thanks!

    I hope the Todd Black thing doesn’t fall through a crack. As much as this case has been under a microscope, I don’t understand how he could have thought he could pull something like this off if it’s true. Not bright at all.

  26. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:31 pm

    Fatass couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Pack your briefcase and beat feet loser; while you still have a shred of dignity left.

  27. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:33 pm

    Ostella, I still want to see him do the Pee Wee dance before he slithers back under the rock he came from. lol

  28. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:36 pm

    Todd Black is probably him; making prank phone calls; it’s all fun and games fat ass til you get bounced out of the circus.

  29. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:39 pm

    Oh Georgie boy is getting stronger by the day; and Cindy gonna start lookin real bad to him when the counseling starts blowing the fog and his view is clearer. Maybe he’ll meet a cute nice nurse while he’s there.

  30. Dusty permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:39 pm

    I have followed this case from day one and there is no shred of reasonable doubt in my mind that Casey murdered Caylee. I believe that any juror will see that. She is not going to get away with this murder. I only wish her family would come to the painful but harsh realization that their daughter did this. I know Casey is a sociopath, I question what diagnosis Cindy has? Obviously she is just as crazy. Poor George is finally cracking under the presser of living with two psyco women in his life for so long. As for Lee, I think he knows the truth and was trying to protect his family, but that doesn’t make his action “right”. There is way too many lies and the obvious finger pointing right to Casey, I don’t believe there is a thing Jose can do to put any doubt in any jurors head.

  31. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:40 pm

    Kick her ass to the curb; and takes the dogs with him.

  32. niecey456 permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:42 pm
    Mystery, I hope you don’t mind, but check that out, especially the discussion. Some really good detective work. I didn’t research this one, they did.
    It was very interesting.

  33. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:42 pm

    Dusty, I would tend to agree, but let’s not forget the OJ trial. No one thought he would walk either, and he did. I agree, every bit of evidence points at her, but all it takes is one legal loop hole, one technicality, to set her lame ass free.

  34. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:49 pm

    Niecey, thanks for sharing. He is as big of a liar as his creepy client. Maybe she helped him come up with it; since it’s as lame as her “Zanny the nanny story”; Gee she doesn’t exist either; or maybe she hiding out with Todd Black?????

  35. ostella permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:49 pm

    Mystery, I don’t wanna make anybody cry unless it’s tears of laughter! 🙂
    But honestly, I think the Devil must be adding a tenth circle to Hell to make room for Baez and his Ego!

  36. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:51 pm

    The have got to be competing for a spot in the Guiness World Book of Records as the dumbest lawyer/dumbest client combo ever!!!!!

  37. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 2:51 pm

    Niecey, I don’t mind at all. I had been following his thread on that. Great sleuthing! And it comes dangerously close to nailing Baez. I hope the bar gives this another look.

  38. Dusty permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:51 pm

    Personally I think the George suicide thing was a defensive stategy or ploy…. He would have just went and done “it” if he really was wanting to be with Caylee… It’s the crazy family of the century grasping at any little shred of hope they can… Why they just don’t face the facts and truths and throw in the towl is a mystery I just can’t figure out. I don’t believe for a minute George was actually contemplating suicide for real!!

  39. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:52 pm

    They probably would, if enough people holler about it; otherwise they take a chance at the media hounding them for answers.

  40. Dusty permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:54 pm

    friendlymom, you are right about OJ. But that verdict was more of a “race” thing.. I believe this is much much different… At least I hope anyways… You know watching her smile and smirk in court the other day just sent chills down my spine… Very disturbing….

  41. niecey456 permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:54 pm

    Mystery, I wonder if maybe it isn’t the bar who needs to take a second look, but the OCSD???

  42. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 2:56 pm

    friendlymom–I’m anxious to see what George does when he leaves the hospital. I’m hoping he’s a changed man because I agree with Dusty–no way is Casey innocent—well, unless aliens swooped in, abducted, and murdered Caylee and our super photographer, Casey, got some clear shots.

  43. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 2:59 pm

    Is pretending to have a spokesperson a crime, Niecey?

  44. Dusty permalink
    February 2, 2009 2:59 pm

    One last comment.. I don’t believe George and Cindy’s marriage will survive this.. It’s only a matter of time.

  45. niecey456 permalink
    February 2, 2009 3:02 pm

    It would depend on if they are funneling money with this bogus stunt.

  46. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 3:02 pm

    Dusty, I disagree about George. I think he was definitely crying out for help. I know I’m probably going to have to eat those words if it turns out that suicide note was nothing but a “praise God for Casey” diatribe. I just think, George, for some reason, will do the right thing in the end. He’ll stand up for Caylee. He did testify against Casey at the hearing.

  47. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 3:04 pm

    I would agree with that Dusty. This would break a rock solid marriage and theirs definitely didn’t appear to be that.

  48. niecey456 permalink
    February 2, 2009 3:04 pm

    Remember the Bar said that what Todd Black did was a violation, but Baez somehow made them believe that Todd Black was acting on his own and not on his behalf. Those are ethical rules. Why would someone go to such an extreme? And so early on in the case?? Todd Black has been a phantom from almost the beginning.

  49. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 3:05 pm

    Niecey, explain?

  50. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 3:05 pm

    I jumped the gun, sorry.

  51. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 3:07 pm

    But that still doesn’t explain how they were funneling money–

  52. niecey456 permalink
    February 2, 2009 3:20 pm

    Maybe that’s why some of the profits can’t be traced to Baez. Maybe this bogus spokesperson, could be handling some of this. If he uses ficticious spokespersons, how about ficticious money grubbers. Like, oh, Showbiz promotions? I just think there is more dirty under the surface than we realize.

  53. niecey456 permalink
    February 2, 2009 3:27 pm

    I know they are somewhat real. Did Baez somehow, get Casey to sign the rights to them for Caylee’s name? Maybe with some profits in payment??? Is there some connection? I couldn’t find a connection to Kid Finders, through sponsorship, there was a new billboard in Jacksonville update on their site, and it was deleted. That is where Showbiz is based. Don’t know if there is any connection, as the page was deleted.

  54. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 3:37 pm

    Dusty, the OJ trial was not a “race thing” . Most of the jury was white, and the prosecution team was mixed as well as the defense. He was married to a white woman and his kids are mixed. We went right on past that. OJ’s trial was won on the credibility of the evidence. Even though all the evidence pointed straight at him (and no one else) the imfamous “glove” set him free. The other thing; he was a football hero, and it was hard for people to believe he could do such a thing. It was never a race thing. The defense tried to thrown the race card, but no one picked it up.
    Niecey, I agree Bozo is as crooked as a dog’s leg. I am sure he has his sticky fingers all in the Todd Black thing.
    And I agree with everyone; this marriage is over.

  55. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:00 pm

    If he is involved in any dirty doings, I hope he gets busted like his fat ass busting out his pants. Then he’ll lose that teaching job too.

  56. MAND permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:08 pm’re in rare form on this one girfriend…very..very..good.
    Niecey..I think you are right about who should be looking into this..Dumbo seems to be involved in quite a bit of shady business..I don’t understand this TB. it legal to use a company that is so under the radar? This man needs to be investigated by LE. not the Bar.

    I agree on George”s suicide attempt..I don’t think he took the medication as Conway stated..he would have had to have his stomach pumped and when he arrived at the hospital he told the admitting nurse he did not take any meds. I think he was reaching out for help..I agree he was or did have a breakdown..he is still there so there is something wrong..he needs the help and should be hospitalized for at least a month.

  57. robin permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:08 pm

    Will the jury ever hear Casey speak? Jose is going to have to get her to work on her grieving (acting skills) her child’s death since according to them someone else did it. If I just walked in on this case today and saw Casey, I would definately say this is not a grieving mother. Jose just keeps changing the defense/story and how can the story change if she “supposedly” told him the truth.

    This was on another post. It was very interesting to listen to. You have to wait for the long introduct0ry song to finish before the interview starts but it is worth it. Here is the link:

    She says what I think that the car trunk is the biggest damning part against Casey. It talks about Jose’s defense.

  58. niecey456 permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:12 pm

    I don’t believe Baez will let her testify, so you won’t hear her speak.

  59. MAND permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:14 pm

    I think George wrote the praise to KC knowing he would still be alive when it was found..still at that time under Cindy’s control.

  60. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 4:16 pm

    thanks for the link, Robin. Will listen to it.
    I do not believe the jury will every hear Casey speak. Even Baez isn’t stupid enough to put her on the stand. But they will be in the courtroom with her day in and day out, and the girl is obviously incapable of faking her emotions or she would have taken on the role of grieving mother a long time ago. The “real” Casey will make herself known.

  61. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 4:19 pm

    You’re probably right Mand. Maybe the suicide attempt started out as a ploy ala Cindy but George really broke down once he got away and was alone in the motel. He fell apart. I also doubt he thought he would be forced to go to a hospital. Once there, obviously, something happened for them to still be keeping him.

  62. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:26 pm

    I believe she is sunk. I don’t think there will much that can be excused away. All the evidence points at her, and no one else. No one even knew she was missing. The one hard fact, that no one can excuse, is her failing to report Caylee missing for 31 days. Add the photos and statements of her “carefree” partying and lack of distress, and her lying to police when they were trying to help find her daughter, the noose tightens around her neck. Then find Caylee’s remains right in the neighborhood, and all the evidence collected is tied to that house. How could they not find her guilty? Her only hope is Bozo digging for some technicality to have the case thrown out, and I do not see that happening.

  63. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:28 pm

    I am just disappointed that the death penalty is taken off the table. I pray it gets put back in.

  64. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:30 pm

    One thing I wanted to mention is about the rumors of Lee making sexual advances toward her (she told two different boyfriends). I am sure Lee has heard this. How do you think that sits with him, when he has been on her side? Or do you feel he will dismiss it as slander against his poor innocent sister.

  65. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:34 pm

    If there was a motive for the suicide attempt, other than to kill yourself, I believe it was George’s way out. I do not believe he wanted to die, but I do believe he wanted away from that house, the media, and probably Cindy. I am sure they have had many arguements over Casey’s involvement, and a lot of finger pointing at each other.

  66. Lori permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:35 pm

    It just kills me how little Casey cares for anyone. Her little girl is found dead, her father has a breakdown, she is in prison accused of murdering her daughter and you would never know it by looking at her. That really says it all. She doesn’t even care enough to pretend. I honestly think she doesn’t even get what the big deal is about all of this…I’ve never seen anything like it. If the 31 days without reporting your child missing, the lies to law enforcement, the partying and not telling anyone her daughter was missing is not enough…..not to mention of course the decomposition in the trunk, cholorform in the car, etc. her demeanor says it all…this is not a grieving mother or daughter.

  67. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:38 pm

    For me, the fact that she did not report her, and led the police on a wild goose chase, and did not offer one damned ounce of truth, and her caring more about talking to her boyfriend, than talking with family who wanted answers, is enough for me. Everything else is just icing on the cake.

  68. Moody Monica permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:39 pm

    From personal experience working for defense attorney’s…Jose Baez is in a win-win position. No matter if he wins or loses this case….his business will grow. Like him or not…he is doing a job. Granted it does take a certain type to be able to go in and defend the guilty…but somebody has to do it. One thing that might surprise people is he and the prosecution are not enemies….I guarantee that they attend the same parties, functions, and more than likely have dinner together. From time to time I got to sit in on trials and the two sides would just be arguing like they hated each other…walk out and have drinks together like nothing had happened.

    I can look at him as a professional doing his job but throwing the race card out there was ridiculous and down right pathetic and in my opinion.

    The way it is looking he only has a few options…one being insanity and I agree with you mystery…I doubt he really wants to go that route…or to continue building on the reasonable doubt and circumstantial evidence…third and the most likely…he knows his client is going to be convicted and he is just going to try to keep the death penalty off the table…which is why I think they put that memo out there stating that if Caylee was dead it was most likely due to an overdose of sedative….that would be a real dumb move if the defense team was trying to prove innocence.

  69. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:42 pm

    My 16 year old did not come home from school at the usual time the other day. She is never late, and always calls. I gave her 20 minutes and I was calling the school and the bus company. I then started calling friends. She came in a bit later, with an excuse of helping a friend. I romped her pretty hard over not calling. I was in a panic, then relieved, then pissed. She was only an hour late. That’s what a worried mother does.

  70. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:46 pm

    Monica, I think we all agree with everything you say, except; he may socialize with the other attorneys, but I doubt if many have respect for him, and after this, I doubt if many would concider him a friend. He is proving to be a dirty, underhanded, slime ball.

  71. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 4:47 pm

    friendly mom,

    that’s a good question about Lee. What did he think when he heard that Casey was accusing him and George of attempting to sexually molest her? I would imagine his reaction would be the same no matter what the truth was–and that would be to put as much distance as possible between himself and that situation.(which he appeared to do)

  72. nancywa permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:48 pm

    It’s JMO, but the Anthony’s don’t seem all that upset about the Caylee dolls – everybody else does, tho. Could it be that Baez and Casey are behind it and that is how Baez will get some money for his defending of her? Baez is getting money somehow and he does have employees that need to be paid AND he is way too indifferent about it–he certainly doesn’t have clients banging at his door for business.

  73. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:48 pm

    The ones who do stick with him are probably just as sleazy as he is, and they would screw each other the first chance they got, if the money was right. I don’t think is a friendship; just an opportunity.

  74. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:51 pm

    Bozo will come out okay though. Win or lose, he stands to make a good bit of blood money. I hope little Caylee haunts his every thought each time he reaches in to spend a buck. But you would have to have a conscience for that to happen.

  75. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 4:52 pm

    I agree with you Lori–and you left out Cindy wasting away to nothing. Her daughter is missing and her entire family is falling apart around her and all she could say in the prison visit was “MY life has been taken away from me.” Now, her daughter is dead, and family hasn’t been to see her in months, they weren’t at the hearing, and Casey struts in with her new look and is all smiles. Whether she’s guilty or not that’s just crazy!

  76. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:53 pm

    Mystery, I believe you are right. Lee’s absence speaks volumes. He better stay clear too.

  77. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 4:55 pm

    I rather thought that way about Lee too, but just wondered what others thought.

  78. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 4:57 pm

    I don’t know, Monica. I just watched a little of Jose saying after the hearing, “I really believe my client is innocent.” I’ll try to find the link again. Surely he doesn’t believe that.

    And I’d forgotten about Baez saying that about IF Caylee were dead it must have been an accident. That was such a stupid statement for him to make when he was trying to convince people there was a live Caylee out there and his client was innocent.

  79. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 5:00 pm

    nancywa–We were talking about that earlier on Niecey’s blog. Baez’ silence on the Caylee Sunshine dolls is quite peculiar and very damning in my opinion.

  80. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:00 pm

    Everything he has done is not very smart. He has acted hasty and unprepared much of the time. Hey Bozo………your inexperience is showing!

  81. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:02 pm

    I would imagine the doll issue is not of his concern. (even if he doesn’t have anything to do with it). I would think he would let the Anthony’s attorney handle that one.

  82. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 5:02 pm

    friendlymom–who knows what Baez thinks or feels really. His facial expression never changes. He has a permanent smug smile on his face and nothing else.

  83. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 5:04 pm

    I think Casey is the only one that could sell the rights to her daughter’s name, not Cindy and George, but I could be wrong. Grandparents don’t have those kinds of rights when the parent is alive.

  84. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:04 pm

    I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if he is involved though. Makes me wonder if that braclet wasn’t one from the same company, or a symbol between them (like a high five) that the money’s in the bank.

  85. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:06 pm

    I would love to find out just how they would go about having legal right to do this. I thought the same thing; that they would need rights to use Caylee’s name. I would love to find out exactly what went down, who gave permission, or if they were using it illegally.

  86. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:09 pm

    Maybe they contacted Casey by letter, and she signed the okay to help pay for her attorney fees. She can probably do this couldn’t she? I mean she hasn’t been found guilty yet. Does anyone know?

  87. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 5:09 pm

    I think it’s Baez and Casey. Michelle Bart wrote a very negative blog against the Caylee Sunshine Doll manufacturer. She is still close to the Anthonys and is running one of the Caylee sites. She wouldn’t have done that if the Anthonys were behind it, IMO.

  88. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 5:11 pm

    And it was my understanding that the photos Baez sold to the television network were from the scrapbook Casey put together to garnish sympathy from the prosecution when they were deciding whether or not to put the death penalty on the table. Someone correct me if I’m wrong about that.

  89. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:11 pm

    Unless she hasn’t been told about it. I would imagine that if the did, they wouldn’t tell anyone at this point. They don’t trust many, and they are in dire straights with their finances.

  90. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 5:11 pm

    I think until Casey is convicted she can do that.

  91. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 5:13 pm

    That’s possible about not telling anyone if the Anthonys did it.

  92. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:13 pm

    I tend to think it’s Baez too. I don’t think Cindy has the strength to go that far as to have a morbid doll made like that.

  93. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:15 pm

    If Baez were approached, or he made the call, he probably whined to Casey, we are going to have to do something, because my funds are running low. It would not have hurt Casey’s feeling to do it; except she may have been envious that it wasn’t a doll of her. Skank loser.

  94. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 5:16 pm

    I agree. I just don’t think Cindy would do such a thing with Caylee’s memory. Baez on the other hand could and would–he has no emotional attachment to Caylee. And we all know how cold Casey appears to be.

  95. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:16 pm

    I thought she could. I wasn’t sure though. I would bet they are behind it.

  96. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 5:17 pm

    gotta find somethin’ to eat Friendly Mom. TTYL

  97. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:18 pm

    Wow, it’s a good thing those two didn’t hook up, they would have been another Bonnie and Clyde.

  98. friendlymom permalink
    February 2, 2009 5:18 pm

    I’m fixing supper right now too. See ya

  99. MAND permalink
    February 2, 2009 6:19 pm

    The Caylee Dailey is reporting that Todd Black is Gil Cabot and that has been known for over a month…WFTV has a report on it …KB..covered it. the guy is an ex-con..does Dumbo hire or even know anyone that doesn’t have a record?
    That in it’s self should be enough for LE to investigate this man.

  100. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 6:56 pm

    I saw that Mand. Amazing isn’t it? I’m gonna print the guy’s company statement about it. It’s even more amazing.

  101. Monica permalink
    February 2, 2009 7:07 pm


    You don’t need to find the link…I’m sure he said it…well of course he is going to say that. In fact if he were to have said I don’t believe she is innocent…Casey could fire him and file a complaint with the bar, file a civil case against him and even have him disbarred if she proves he violated her rights. We all know that Casey is guilty but as her attorney she must be treated as “innocent until proven guilty” otherwise he violates her rights. Now he has every right to remove himself as her attorney.
    Do I think he knows she is guilty? My personal opinion says yes he does..but that is all it is…my personal opinion.

    Friendlymom…you might be surprised…just because the prosecution are the “good guys” in the Caylee case doesn’t mean that they are always good….they may not like him…I don’t personally know of them… but they generally do not burn bridges with the opposite counsel…you never know when you might need them.

  102. Monica permalink
    February 2, 2009 7:08 pm

    p.s. sorry my name is different on this and the last reply…I am working on a family blog.

  103. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 2, 2009 7:13 pm

    I think he knows she is guilty and is just stating she’s innocent because he has to. Yes, he could quit–but he won’t. This is his golden ticket. To hell with what’s best for his client.

  104. Monica permalink
    February 2, 2009 8:04 pm


  105. HATCAT permalink
    February 2, 2009 10:58 pm

    This case becomes worse for the defense every week.
    If I were Baez and I had my client’s best interests in my heart, I would try my best
    to get a solid trial date ASAP…..but, if I was enjoying the publicity, as it appears to be, I would drag it out for as long as possible.

  106. MAND permalink
    February 2, 2009 11:22 pm

    You don’t go for a speedy trial if you know your client is!
    Dumbo is going to milk this for all he can.

  107. February 3, 2009 9:30 am

    I cannot even look at or listen to Biaz. There is just something about him! Strategy who knows if he knows what that means, really!

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