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Motion to stop release of 100’s of Casey Anthony’s photobucket pictures filed today by defense

February 26, 2009

casey-anthony-in-flag1Jose Baez  filed a motion today that challenges what he says will be the release of 100’s if not 1000’s of  photos of Casey Anthony that could paint her in a negative light.  He said prosecutors gave him 3 discs on the 25th of February and that 2 of them contain photos from Casey Anthony’s photobucket account.  He says the prosecutors are going to release and use those photos to embarrass and harass his client.  A hearing is scheduled for 4:15 pm Monday.

The motion argues that the vast majority of those photos are irrelevant to the case and will hurt his client. Baez states that the prosecution has already leaked photos of Anthony and he cites a doll dressed in the American flag like Casey was in at a party as, 

“strict proof that the release of photographs that are irrelevant to the case are forming a biased opinion of the Defendant and her persona as evidenced by the creation of said doll.”

He wants the prosecution to decide what pictures they are going to use at trial and to not release the rest of them.

Read the motion here:

motion to withhold photobucket pictures of Casey Anthony

read the article here:

Well, I’m a little confused.  Are these new photographs or are they the ones the vast majority of which are already all over the internet?  Could these be  the “infamous” photos George spoke of in one of his interviews with LE? ( The really naughty ones?) I don’t know. Plus, I think the Fusion ones were already released in earlier discovery? So, they must be new.

Whether the photos he’s talking about are ones we’ve seen or one’s we haven’t seen, I seriously doubt he’s going to be able to rescue his client’s reputation.  The photos we’ve already seen (some of which were proven to have been taken after Caylee went missing) have put her in a permanent “negative light”  in the public’s eyes.  Nothing he can do to change that.  The blue dress (where’s REBECCA the bounty hunter?) is seared in our minds.

As far as “embarrassing and harassing his client”, is that the phrase of the week?  Didn’t Conway use those words or words similar when he was arguing that George and Cindy were too delicate right now to be deposed in the Zenaida Gonzales lawsuit?

139 Comments leave one →
  1. Patti permalink
    February 26, 2009 6:20 pm

    Didn’t Casey post all the photos online herself?? I know she had quite a few on her MySpace page, which pretty much makes them public.

    Bozo has to whine about something….to make it LOOK like he’s working on this case.

    My opinion is … those photos should be the least of Casey’s concerns.

    As for showing her in a negative light….putting duct tape on that baby’s mouth doesn’t make her look like “Mom of the Year”.

  2. February 26, 2009 7:11 pm

    If the judge has any internet savvy, he will know every photo is already out there. Any paper or news media in the world can get their hands on them. Baez using the doll in his motion is stupid as it has nothing to do with the release of the disks. It just goes to show that the photos are out there already.

    It’s sort of “what goes around comes around” type thing.

  3. February 26, 2009 7:19 pm

    I sincerely doubt if anything released would put Casey Anthony in a bad light. She has managed to do that all by herself already. How can the publics opinion of her be any worse?

  4. detwill39 permalink
    February 26, 2009 7:21 pm

    If Baez thinks there are pics of Casey we haven’t already viewed, he probably wants to sell them as per Casey’s instructions.

  5. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 26, 2009 8:03 pm

    I think that Nancy Grace should be arrested and placed in a prison. Someplace nice and safe where she will not be able to undermine our legal system the way she has been doing with this Anthony case. Ultraconservatives want to put flag burners in prison, what’s the difference? She didn’t burn the flag, but she does vandalize due process each and every night. She is molesting your right to due process, which she was sanctioned by the Appeals courts years before, and setting a precedent for every child who will grow up in a world where mock trials are held on TV for entertainment. She is vandalizing the jury system by attempting to taint all of society with her hyper-accusatory views, phony evidence and wild accusations. In my opinion, in virtue of the fact that phony bogus evidence has already been presented to every possible juror, you have a mistrial by definition even before the trial has begun. And, Casey Anthony should be released immediately because this is not a case that simply cannot be tried fairly under our system of Law. Guilty or not, Casey should go free, in part largely due to the un-professionalism of Nancy Grace. Good going Nancy, you idiot. 😦

  6. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2009 8:08 pm


    Are they public if you have posted them in a private Photobucket account? I don’t know. Yes, her being shown in a negative light is the least of her problems. I agree.

    Hi John

    Yeah, his using the doll as an example of how the photos can shed a negative light is ridicules. I agree with you, we probably have seen all the photos they’ve released.

  7. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2009 8:10 pm

    I don’t know about the rest of the public, but I my opinion could certainly not be any worse!

    LOL! I think you nailed it. He wants to sell them alright—-to the highest Casey Doll bidders.

  8. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2009 8:14 pm


    I think everyone knows what you think of Nancy Grace. Is your vendetta against her personal? Because, I really don’t see what she has to do with this particular post?

  9. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 26, 2009 8:26 pm

    No, itsamysterytome, I have no vendetta aginst Nancy Grace. There are just so many vicims of Nancy’s that she has harned, hurt, and some have even lost their life directly because of the unprofessional actions of Predator Nancy Grace. And, no, my interest in Nancy Grace is not personal. It is deep rooted in my sincere efforts to help out real victims of crimes. Nancy has never been a victim of any crime herself, so she remains clue-less to the damage she does by her false and incorrect assertions of things she knows nothing about. It is because of Nancy Grace that this post likely originated. Without her mishandling the entire coverage of this case, it would likely have been covered for a day or so by other networks and not covered again until trial time. I believe Nancy’s motive is personal. I believe her attempt is to badger Casey and her family until one of them commits suicide and then she has another to deflect the attention oaway from Nancy causing the death of another mother of a missing child. 😦

  10. Robin 2 permalink
    February 26, 2009 8:34 pm

    There’s not any photos we’ve seen of this gal who have painted her in a good light.

    So what’s the problem, Baez? You should stop worrying about this, because maybe, just maybe, of all these thousands of photos floating around out there of Casey, one NICE one might pop up and save your jury pool search.

    Just kidding. There aren’t any.

  11. February 26, 2009 8:41 pm

    itsamysterytome, I have a photobucket account and it can be seen by anyone,

    It is public by my choice. I also have photos for only those to see that I send the links to as it is set up as private.

    The photos of Casey that are on the net were not in any private account. I am guessing that LE just copied them as did others. If there are some that were in a private account and LE got them, then it would seem reasonable to not put them in discovery.

  12. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2009 8:45 pm

    Yes, this does seem like a silly thing for Baez to be worrying about considering the fact that so many other photos are already out there. What’s a 1000 or so more?


    I know it is pointless to argue with you about whether or not NG is responsible for the publicity surrounding this case, but I will say this: The insane publicity around this case was generated by Crazy Casey’s outrageous and unbelievable behavior and the subsequent behavior of her idiotic family and the slimeballs they’ve chosen to associate with. THEY are the ones that have given Nancy Grace, Velez-Mitchell and others fodder for their shows. They are the reason blogs have popped up–not Nancy Grace. I know you disagree with this so let’s just agree to disagree.

  13. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2009 8:48 pm

    Thanks for that information John. Maybe Baez is talking about photos that were in a private account. If not, then his motion is pointless and stupid.

  14. February 26, 2009 9:07 pm

    michellefrommadiso, I have deleted what I call your spam off my last blog. I welcome your comments but not the continued blast against anyone. I know you have good thoughts about the various subjects we all discuss here and I welcome them to my blogs anytime.

    I will even offer you this to further your cause. I will host a web page of your design on my server (I will even make it for you if you like) so everyone can see it as it will be static. The only thing I ask in return it that you participate in post so as not to get us all mad at you.

  15. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 26, 2009 9:09 pm

    OK, itsamysterytome, fair enough, lets just agree to disagree about how nancy Grace is victimizing real victims of crimes. If I notice any more crimes perpetrated by Nancy Grace against vicims again, I’ll let ya know. See ya soon. 🙂

  16. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 26, 2009 9:12 pm

    Not exactly sure what that means johninflorida.

  17. February 26, 2009 9:21 pm

    What I am saying and I will quote you, “I have no vendetta aginst Nancy Grace. There are just so many vicims of Nancy’s that she has harned, hurt, and some have even lost their life directly because of the unprofessional actions of Predator Nancy Grace. And, no, my interest in Nancy Grace is not personal. It is deep rooted in my sincere efforts to help out real victims of crimes”.

    Create a web page to help out real victims as you say above. I am not trying to be smart, rather helpful. Here is one of my static web pages. It happens to be links to many others. You could do the same or similar as the designs are unlimited and you can convey your thoughts on what you believe in having others hear.

  18. February 26, 2009 9:27 pm

    Hi Mystery, i say to Baez and Casey, she made her bed so she will have to lie in it and Baez will have to deal with the negativity from it, whether it be photos or whatever~~

  19. February 26, 2009 9:29 pm

    Hi John, your a good man so i want to warn you, don’t waste your time with michelleinmadison. No one is getting through to that head of hers. She reminds of MM. Trust me on this one.

  20. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 26, 2009 9:31 pm

    Did you not realize Knight Owl that Casey Anthony has not been convicted of anything yet and she is afforded the rights of many things including due process. Need even more help understanding the real facts of this case? I love your icon too. 🙂

  21. ZAP permalink
    February 26, 2009 9:32 pm

    Did Casey have more than 1 photo bucket account? There is another sluether who has downloaded them.

  22. February 26, 2009 9:41 pm

    I sent in a post but it must be in moderation as it has a link on it.

    People have opinions and everyone has a right to them what ever they are. I am just saying, there is a better form of expressing your opinion instead of hit and miss post to get a point across and at the same time going through spam filters.

    We kind of got off topic here, sorry

  23. February 26, 2009 9:43 pm

    At one time I searched photobucket and it looked like her photos were all put back on in various peoples accounts. Not sure if they still exist.

  24. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2009 9:49 pm

    I just bailed your post out of Spam Jail, John.

  25. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 26, 2009 9:49 pm

    Why did the chicken cross the road? I don’t know why Nancy Grace crossed the road. Maybe because she is afraid of actual facts of the case because she has already made up her mind at the get-go and she doesn’t want to be confused by the facts.

  26. February 26, 2009 9:51 pm

    My post went into cyber space somewhere. Here is what I said without the link. Click on my name above to go to the link I talking about.

    “”””What I am saying and I will quote you, “I have no vendetta aginst Nancy Grace. There are just so many vicims of Nancy’s that she has harned, hurt, and some have even lost their life directly because of the unprofessional actions of Predator Nancy Grace. And, no, my interest in Nancy Grace is not personal. It is deep rooted in my sincere efforts to help out real victims of crimes”.

    Create a web page to help out real victims as you say above. I am not trying to be smart, rather helpful. Here is one of my static web pages. It happens to be links to many others. You could do the same or similar as the designs are unlimited and you can convey your thoughts on what you believe in having others hear.””””

  27. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2009 9:53 pm

    No problem, and well said, John. You’d be doing yourself a favor by taking him up on his offer.

  28. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2009 9:55 pm

    Hi Knight Owl

    You’re right. She made her bed on this one about 2000 pictures of herself ago. Keeping some from being officially released is pretty pointless at this late date.

  29. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2009 9:58 pm

    It’s there John–It plopped itself down just below Michelle’s comment saying she didn’t know what you meant and above Knight Owl’s post. Here’s the link again:

  30. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 26, 2009 9:59 pm

    Last warning, Michelle. One more time and you’re out. I don’t want to do that but I will. You are taking time and energy away from the discussion.

  31. The Lunitic is on the Grass permalink
    February 26, 2009 10:08 pm

    Wait till the porno pics show up!!Josey will be sell’n em to some smut mag..Mister no defence is gonna sink the whodog in any case.The pic time line is important,and when the jury sees this SCREWED..

  32. February 26, 2009 10:12 pm

    Well, I tried to be helpful, now if I could just convince Baez to make a “Casey is innocent web page”. Hmmmmm, maybe not, it would be hacked every day. Speaking of which, I wonder if he ever got that server set up, the one that is hack proof.,a,msj Whoops, I just fell off my chair!

  33. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 26, 2009 10:16 pm

    Some of those pics are posted on different sites already. Pure porno, but not anything to do with the murder case though. 🙂

  34. February 26, 2009 10:17 pm

    Interesting thought. How could the prosecution know right now what pictures they would use as the trial has not started. I would think they might want to use any and all depending how the trial goes. Everything is in flux and the prosecution needs a pocket full of stuff to counter what the defense brings up.

  35. February 26, 2009 10:21 pm

    The photos help to put together a picture of her demeanor as do the audio’s of her lies and her partying after her daughter went missing. It will be many things forming a picture that the jury will have to decide on.

  36. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 26, 2009 10:39 pm

    Lies and porno do not constitute a murderer. It will all be disregarded as potential negative evidence because there is no relavance to the charge or to this case. 🙂

  37. February 26, 2009 10:48 pm

    You are right about those two things but when you look at the fact that there is a dead baby and the person entrusted to take care of her did not. Did not report her missing and hampered the investigation to find her plus the many, many more things she either did or did not do that most normal people would do, then she has a problem. Off hand, I can’t think of many people who have acted like Casey has, well maybe a few and they have either been executed, sitting on death row or in prison for life.

  38. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 26, 2009 10:58 pm

    Well, you clearly have not followed this case based upon your last comment. I have and know the relevance that you cannot see. Do some actual research to learn the details you are remise of and lets follow back up after you compete a thorough research into the facts, ok? If I knew the things that Casey reported to the police in the beginning, there would be no way I would have done anything different, except for the pole dancing. 🙂

  39. LVSusie permalink
    February 26, 2009 11:29 pm

    Im thinking these are the photos that Baez wanted to sell to the media

  40. February 26, 2009 11:44 pm

    Let’s see, the things Casey reported to the police in the beginning. I have not seen my child in 31 days. Last time i saw my child i left her off at The Sawgrass Apartments at the stairway with my nanny(Zaneida Fernandez-Gonzalez) where i have left her off many times before.I Went to work at universal, i am an Event Planner. when i came back to pick up my daughter no one was there. I sat and waited on the stairs for awhile about an hour or so, thinking maybe Zanny had taken Caylee to the mall or somewhere they like to go and have gone before. Then i went to caylee’s favorite place to play, Blanchard Park to look for her. I did not know what to do. We know she figured out what to do when she went party hopping at Fusion Lounge, and when she went to Blockbuster’s with her boyfriend Tony and rented two movies. Let’s we not forget also, she was cooking pasta for Tony and his room-mate. Another was then going shopping at Target using Amy Huzienga’s checks, buying food and Beer at Winn Dixie. Back again to Target using another check of Amy’s. Taking a trip to the Bank to oh yes, cash one of amy’s checks. oh and i forgot, sneaking back in to the old home place and got caught by Pappa George wanting the thing to put behind the tire wheel so he could rotate cindy’s tires over the weekend, George is insisting on getting this from the trunk himself, but Casey according to George on his FBI tape, said Casey just blew right by him, opened the trunk and said, here are your f’ing gas cans. George, the ones that we reported stolen, Casey had taken them. Plus there was that terrible car accident Zanny had while casey was following from behind. The i am working in Jacksonville untrue story. I agree with John, of course the pictures are going to paint a picture to the juror’s of a mother doing all these things, while according to the mother herself, said on the first 911 call, when asked why did you not report your child missing earlier? why did you wait 31 days? Casey responds by saying i thought i could find her myself and that was i know stupid. so there you have it. I May have left out something so anyone want to add to this list please feel welcome to do so.

  41. February 26, 2009 11:49 pm

    Hi LV Susie, i bet you just might be right.

  42. February 26, 2009 11:59 pm

    Imagine looking for a two and a half year old behind a stripper pole at Fushion Lounge, at Blockbuster’s, at Tony’s place, at Target, Winn Dixie, the Bank. Gee just all the right places you would expect Zanny the nanny that stole your daughter to be hanging out with your kid.

  43. MAND permalink
    February 27, 2009 12:43 am

    Dumbo wants the hard core porno to sell at a later date..he’s fighting for his future payment..if these go public ..there goes his money.
    The photos could very well come into trial..shows her character..especially the ones taken after Caylee went missing.

  44. February 27, 2009 1:00 am

    Mystery, since i have also been accused more than once by michelle on another blog site, that i don’t know the facts or the case and etc, i wrote the long post of actual facts. Everyone else is aware of these facts but looks like Michelle thinks were not and she is the only one that has the facts in this case.

  45. February 27, 2009 1:06 am

    Mand, that sounds like Bozo to me. I think the fusion photos will definitely come in to play in this case for the obvious reasons. They may not be allowed to show the ones of her shopping and using Amy’s checks as that is another charge against her. anyway, they have enough to show a jury she is guilty and i do believe more than we know is still to come to confirm this even more in time or if not made to the public will come out in the trial.

  46. February 27, 2009 1:08 am

    Mystery, I love your larger avatar pics. shows up Louie so well and Louie says he likes it too and he is Fine looking~ lol

  47. Jill from Western Australia permalink
    February 27, 2009 1:22 am

    Hi Mystery, Mand & all…still getting 4 or 5 Google alerts/day on Bozo..he certainly deserves that nickname – hi!

    Wonder if Lee will get out of the depo tomorrow?

    Cheers from down-under

  48. MAND permalink
    February 27, 2009 1:36 am

    Hey Jill how’s it going…we’ll see about Lee..never know about these people till the show begins!!
    Knight Owl..he needs (Dumbo) these photos for the other reason he would be so adamant about them..most have already been out there from day one. Louie does look mighty fine!!!

  49. Jill from Western Australia permalink
    February 27, 2009 1:42 am

    Borrowed from another web site…

    Q..when are we going to get a Bozo doll?

    A..No one can make a BB doll, everytime someone gets close it cries and files a motion.

  50. PozeLenore permalink
    February 27, 2009 2:30 am

    oh michelle we sure want to know your secrets, those secrets that make you superior, no?

    If I believed you knew something more about this case than anyone else does, knew secret information, I would call LE myself and have them speak to you.

    It is extremely incorrect for you to use this picture of NG with a cross over it for your avi. Not people, not actual people, michelle, not cool, come correct on this soon.

    And as for Nancy, she has in fact been a victim of crime. Are you deaf AND BLIND?

    *** up early and did just read LEE ANTHONY WILL NOT ANSWER questions today if the media is invited. That is as of early Friday, good morning yall.

    Oh, I saw completely disgusting, Grade 4 hard core porn pics of Casey that made me want to yak, early early on. Casey is a “Photographer” with no job, longstanding, and she probably has been selling compromising photographs of herself for a long time. Thats probably how she got into this mess, with the searches for escort services and her learning curve demonstrated at Fusion, I think this is what she intended to do for a living. Event coordinator alright, the event being her coochie. There was a shooting outside of Fusion just the other night, this is a really classy joint indeed.

    She may have even been selling photos of the child, for all you know, michelle, chloroform, compromising photos .. you do the math. She had no job, had a female baby, a camera, friends in low places. Who knows, im just saying-saying. Most of those types of childp photos have no face in them anyway. We will never, never know.

    Maybe Michelle-Above-Nancy can tell us the real poo .. cmon Genius! Im waitin to hear something new that convinces us to let casey out to go shopping and buddy up next to YOUR kid with that cell camera … Yeah!

  51. PozeLenore permalink
    February 27, 2009 2:43 am

    Knight Owl, I must say I had a dog named Louie once. She was Luka at first, but Louie forever after that. Its a name earned, no?

    and you did leave out one thing, one thing I dont think Michelle would have done, she probably would have left this out to had she BEEN CASEY, but wannabe aside, she is not.

    Casey texts some dude and INVITES HIM to party with her and another girl, they will bring the Xanax and says: WE WILL BE A GOOD TIME.

    Thats her event, and she was coordinatin it. See? There are many things left out, really stupid, cold heartless things Casey said and did in the face of her parents and friends and would have been an embarrassment to her daughter even if she had allowed her to grow up long enough to be certain. Or even long enough to start to tell.

    The duct tape … the spiritual message … caylee, do not tell. With a heart to emphasize the secret. George said she showed no recognition when he asked about her day with the “nanny”. He must have avoided the millions of obvious questions he could have asked that child. I think .. he probably did ask them, and he aches at not acting on the answers.

  52. azrenee permalink
    February 27, 2009 2:47 am

    I think any photos taken that show her profound need to party does have bearing on this case, as it goes to motive. None of her friends that are at the parties with her every night have kids or responsibilities. The friends with kids were amazed in their testimony that she was out partying so much–the pictures are proof. Michelle get a life—Nancy is not my favorite person, but she was in fact a victim of crime–and as far as I can tell, has been the only defender of the lying manipulating Anthony family. Casey has lied from the start of this case, about every single thing–whatever information you have must have come from kidfinders or Michelle Bart–OMG are you THAT Michelle??? Hmmm. If you dont like the blogs dont comment, if you dont like Nancy Grace–dont watch. Thats the beauty of the internet and television…YOU CAN TURN EM OFF!!! I love your blog Its, Ive been a lurker for a while now–Thanks.

  53. February 27, 2009 7:01 am

    If it wasn’t for the fact that michellefrommadison is michelle from Texas, I would have guessed she was Cindy. I guess you don’t want to take advantage of my offer????

  54. pak31 permalink
    February 27, 2009 7:36 am

    johninflorida, you took a little beating there huh? I agree with you about the pics. When you are trying to show a jury what type of a person you are dealing with, you need to lay it all on the table. The pics alone obviously don’t constitute murder but it’s the whole picture not just one item that the jury needs to examine. Good jurors will understand that and they should know that millions of young adults party hard or even harder all the time. But these pics, many of them anyway, were taken WHILE Caylee was missing. It really proves a good point in regard to her demeanor. As for any NG bashing. I just have to say that I find it humorous that anyone would actually let NG get under their skin like that. If what NG was doing was illegal, then she wouldn’t be on t.v. anymore. Plus, this is America so you do have the choice not to watch her. I guess with what has happened to poor Caylee and so many other innocent children in this world, can’t we just be nice to each other? Learn to put our differences past us and be nice and respectful. A lot of good comes out of these cases, but still way too much negativity and cruelness. I just don’t understand why it’s wrong for NG to do what she does, but it’s okay for someone to hate on her.

  55. Marya3804 permalink
    February 27, 2009 8:13 am

    Casey is a loser big time. The pictures confirm her sleazy lifestyle.
    She backed Cindy and George into corners but she won’t pull it off with
    the public. Her moaning and groaning about being the victim will be
    fruitless in court. No one stole the pictures, she was promoting herself. She can’t lie enough to cover up everything she has done.
    Caylee paid with her life so Casey could hit the bars and sleep around. All the while lying to friends and stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down.

  56. February 27, 2009 8:18 am

    pak31, I never take a beating, only discussion which sometimes seems out of control. I feel bad for itsamysterytome because her blog, (a good one) got kind of messed up.

    Peoples character is all so important in a trial and that is why a judge will order test to see how the person on trial is fit mentally. How that person has and is acting is a very important issue and is why the defendant is often dressed very well in street clothes. The photos will most likely be used to show her demeanor, why not as it is important.

  57. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 9:55 am

    Looks like I went to bed waaayyy to early last night!

    Knight Owl–Thanks for your response to Michelle. Very good response! Apparently so good it struck her speechless! LOL. Casey’s behavior, as verified by some of those pictures, is absolutely relevant to this case. It’s visual proof of her complete lack of concern that her daughter was gone, and 1 more nail in her coffin.

    And I agree with you, Michelle repeats the same old thing on every blog and when the heat turns up she disappears. She’s not interested in this case and obviously has no knowledge of it–she’s only interested in NG bashing.

    Thanks about the larger avatars. I like them, too. I can actually see how handsome Louie is without getting out my magnifying glass!

  58. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 9:59 am


    It does show her character and her shocking lack of concern for her daughter’s whereabouts if she didn’t kill her, and her complete lack of remorse if she did kill her.

    I really just don’t get this motion. If these are the pictures that are already out there, how many people have already downloaded them? Does Bozo think no one that already has them won’t flop them out there for all to see?

    Is this the beginning of him trying to have them removed from evidence altogether?

  59. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 10:06 am

    thanks for the laugh!


    thanks for your comment to Michelle. I agree with you that her lack of information is the problem. The thing is, she’s only interested in bashing Nancy for whatever reason–And I don’t buy the reason she gives. Thanks also for adding to Knight Owl’s list. I hope you are wrong about Casey using Caylee in photos though I know others have wondered the same thing because of the porn pictures. You are right, we will never know what that little girl really endured at the hands of her mother. Her anxiety whenever her mother left the room when they were away from the Anthony home says things were not quite right.

  60. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 27, 2009 10:10 am

    Regarding the Caylee and the Media, the attorney for the Anthony’s (Cindy and George) did tell Greta VanSusteren that he will be addressing the media for possible damages portrayed against his clients after the whole Casey case is complete. Can’t remember his name, but I know he represents Cindy and George. After the Duckett case where CNN and a host is alleged to have been an instrumental part of the suicide of Melinda, and now with George having allegedly made an attempt, a legal motion is expected to be filed sometime around the first part of next year according to that interview. Makes sense, and I hope it begins to regulate and enforce some better standards for those media outlets to do some more accurate reporting and to not denigrate victims, their relatives, and their families. The prime defendant, he said, will be CNN.

  61. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 10:45 am


    Thanks for the compliment! Glad you decided to come out of hiding! You are so right. Those pictures do attest to motive.

    You are also right that Nancy Grace, love her or hate her, was a crime victim. Michelle’s obsession with NG is very strange and I would bet there’s a whole lot more to it than the reasons she states. Michelle’s lack of concern or knowledge of the real facts leads one to think the last thing on her mind is defending the innocents. The only thing on her mind is bashing NG. At least be honest, Michelle. What’s your real motive. Are you jealous? Did she do something personally to you?

  62. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 11:03 am

    Michelle, you posted your latest comment after I posted mine to azrenee.

    Thank you for a posting, finally, that is more on topic. I had not heard that Brad Conway, the Anthony’s attorney was thinking of suing the media. That’s interesting and will be interested to see if he really does that.

  63. February 27, 2009 11:10 am

    As James Madison once said as he traveled by rail north from Madison County to Addison and then Carrollton, (oh and they did name that county after him) he said, let the information be public, let all the people see out records, good or bad, publish them all. Yep, that is what he said
    So whether it is photos, our addresses, phone numbers, taxes, where we went to school or just about anything about us he said let it be public and it is. I guess it is sometimes helpful to have all this information public and sometimes not, depending on how one sees it. That’s just some ramblings in my mind.

  64. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 27, 2009 11:11 am

    I know, I’m a bit skeptical on that too. I heard the same thing from the attorneys of the Duke Lacrosse players. They either got an undisclosed “settlement” nogoiated between the victims attorney and the University, or they simply have not filed it yet. My guess is a settlement was acheive, I know that’s how CNN and MSNBC handles most of their legal stuff. They place a non-disclosure statement within the settlement document just like CNN continues to do. Plus, they file it with the courts under names not directly associated with the prime target of the reason for the settlement too. It’s really quite hypocritical how these networks do all of this while claiming accurae, fais and balanced reporting. I would love to see their books, the networks would be shut down for good.

  65. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 11:41 am

    Michelle-I’m not sure that NG was solely responsible for Melinda Duckett’s suicide. I have not followed that case closely so someone else would have to address that, but from what I have read, there were some big unanswered questions surrounding her.

    As for George–If he really did attempt suicide I would imagine his daughter, Casey Anthony, could shoulder the majority of the responsibility on that one. Not to defend the media, because they do hound and harass people in the name of the almighty “story”, but George and Cindy have, every time the focus moved away from them in the media, managed to do something to stir it back up again bringing the spotlight right back at them.

  66. February 27, 2009 11:54 am

    itsamysterytome, do a Google on “michellefrommadison”, read a little and you will see it is time to hit the spam button. I’s not worth the effort to answer her.

  67. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 12:10 pm

    Good lord, I hope not Michelle. We’re losing our freedoms left and right as it is.

    John, thanks for the history lesson. The truth is, Madison probably would be appalled at how his vision of full disclosure has been applied in our modern society–or would he? Of course, IMO, all of the our forefathers would be appalled at what is happening in this country today. But–hey that’s a different post altogether isn’t it.

    And thanks for your offer of a web page to Michelle. Hopefully she take you up on it and find an outlet for her issues with NG.

  68. Marya3804 permalink
    February 27, 2009 12:11 pm

    Gee, it sounds like someone is sue happy. Maybe sex offenders should be given a break, too. We don’t need little darlins’ being upset
    by being exposed! No media coverage would set us back a century.
    Go figure, you can’t please everyone.

  69. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 12:18 pm

    Thanks John, I’ll google her.

  70. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 12:23 pm


    You are right about Casey. She was promoting herself with those 1000’s of pictures–who has 1000’s of pictures of THEMSELVES anyway?

    No media coverage or controlled media coverage would mean no freedom of speech and would send us back further than a century!

  71. February 27, 2009 12:37 pm


  72. February 27, 2009 12:41 pm

    itsamysterytome, that was not meant to be a history lesson. James Madison/michellefrommadison. It has to do with foot prints and IP address and who you really are and public records where you live. Public records reveal a lot about a persons life and who they really are. It’s one of my many hobby’s. 🙂

  73. February 27, 2009 12:42 pm

    Whoops, haha, hit the key to fast.

  74. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 1:26 pm

    Sorry–that went right over my head, John! LOL. Too many comments, too many distractions, and reading too fast! I also googled michellefrommadison as you suggested. I’ll stand by what I said to her earlier. 3 strikes and she’s out. No more rants about Nancy Grace.

  75. BEES KNEES permalink
    February 27, 2009 2:14 pm

    S/he seems to average about three comments before s/he’s banned from the blog. S/he has many, many different names but all of his/her comments are identical so you know that’s who it is. I’m not a huge Nancy Grace fan but I am in touch with reality and I’m pretty certain Nancy didn’t murder Caylee, which is something michellefrommadison has said a few times! Snort! Silly!

    I’ve heard that Casey fancies herself a photographer but who do you think was taking all those hundreds of shots of her? I’ve seen some pretty harsh x-rated ones of her and I can’t image who might have been on the business side of the camera!!! Some of them were really harsh . . . the only accurate word to describe them is pornography. And I’m not talking about the pole-dancing-blue-dress-push-up-bra shot either!

  76. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 2:25 pm

    I’ve seen one of the realllyyyyyy bad ones and that’s a very good question, Bees Knees. Who was the photographer?

  77. February 27, 2009 3:25 pm




  78. PozeLenore permalink
    February 27, 2009 4:07 pm

    Well Geez Bees, and its a mystery, you apparently saw the … mouthful that I saw. We should all have no eyes left, no? These are for sale, guys. Photographer got paid for that stuff, yes indeed. Wouldnt you? Besides the freebie, you’re gonna want some compensation for taking these shots all day. Not to mention your eventual liability. This is a money racket, not a girly hobby on facebook.

    What a sick photographer, lets hope it isnt Lee in his “entertainment” business … (owie). He absolutely does NOT believe everything casey told him, what a lying creep he files himself as with Poze. His avoidance of questions today is really hard for me to think around.

    I read a very interesting article by Kathi Belich today when
    she intereviewed a teenager who donated money to Casey. Go fish.
    its on the internet and interesting

  79. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 4:24 pm

    I’ll do it Poze. It’ll have to wait til after dinner though. And yep–that would be the picture I saw!

    I haven’t watched all the video yet of Lee’s deposition, but he said he believed everything Casey told him about Zenaida–it was just a different Zenaida. I’ll have to finish watching it later as well.

    pitiful–They do act like they are entitled.

  80. February 27, 2009 4:42 pm

    Haha! now tina4washington is posting on my blogs and is really michellefrommadison. (Same IP).

    Here is what she said, how stupid to have to sink so low.

    “”””””Thanks michellefrommadison, you hit the nail on it’s head on every one of your posts I have seen. No wonder you have a PhD, your excellent! Keep up the great work you do for victims of crimes.””””””””

  81. pozelenore permalink
    February 27, 2009 4:50 pm

    Oh I am sorry to see the poster against NG is aswering their own posts, patting their own back. That is sick to a reader. Real sick for a writer. What a blog mosquito that is.

    Geez, John im sorry you had to do this.

    But thanks for the share, one should always know their spider.

    The Anthonys in total need to come clean before the Universe just squeezes the breath out of them slowly like a boa snake. They walk on bad earth, and they will land on the wrong side of history for sure. I think nothing they try to plant this way will bloom.

  82. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 27, 2009 4:51 pm

    Another blogger that stopped by, she’s actually a former student of mine and now works in a Law firm. She’s absolutely fantastic. See what happens when you don’t know what you are commenting on John, it makes you look foolish. Better luck next time. 🙂

  83. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 27, 2009 4:53 pm

    Another blogger that stopped by, she’s actually a former student of mine and now works in a Law firm. She’s absolutely fantastic. See what happens when you don’t know what you are commenting on John, it makes you look foolish. Better luck next time. 🙂 Hahahaha.

  84. pozelenore permalink
    February 27, 2009 4:57 pm


    If your little friend stopped by, using your IP, why didnt she just tell you how great you are in person and you

    CAN LEAVE THE REST OF US OUT OF IT? Because in 2 posts you salted your own education in there, but it isnt being used if thats how you schlepp it around, honey. Oh I am sure your imaginary friend is “fantastic”. Accurate when you look up the meaning of THAT word.

    hMMM? What a load of happy crap, you poor injured embarrassed soul. Go do something else and we will try to forget you, i know, you meant to do that. But … PEW. You are NOT passing the sniff test in here !

  85. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 27, 2009 5:00 pm

    She did, now see how stupid you look now being so uninformed. She’s blogged from here probably over 30 times since around Christmas, sorry it made you out to look so uninformed. She’s a former student in grad classes. 🙂

  86. pozelenore permalink
    February 27, 2009 5:02 pm

    Please everyone post immediately what your level of education is.

    NOT. What a blog FOUL !! We dont care !

    What a braggart the madison and washington poster is.

    Its a mystery to ME is a great blog and when you go away, and you will, we can get back to enjoying each other, dont give up guys, this poster will fade

    my prediction is 3 or 4 more doses of the bitch puddin’ here, and then this predator moves on to fresh feed …

  87. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 27, 2009 5:06 pm

    You are hilarious pozelenore, now you think I am two different people at the same time. Wit, I think I have an idea what you level of education is.

  88. pozelenore permalink
    February 27, 2009 5:07 pm

    Please Michelle from hell … give us a break

    you are crawling on your knees now …

    if you had a complementary post … from one ole’ friend … a whole lot of people missed it. None of those have happened here … Hmm. We dont care if your friends admire you. You cant take away the stupid posts in here with YOUR name on them.

    You have to admit at some point, most bloggers seem to find you unpleasant. If you choose to ignore that and create fantasy opinions of yourself, well, you just remind us all of someone in Jail.

    Your sociopathic blame of Nancy Grace sparks a problem and we dont want to unravel your problems, we are not here to talk about YOU.

    I hope you can post something about this case, if you must be here.

  89. Marya3804 permalink
    February 27, 2009 5:13 pm

    michellefrommadison, I think the subject here is something different
    than your education. People are expressing opinions and it is perplexing to me that you are so combative. Casey and the Anthony’s
    created this circus. They have loved the limelight. Surely you will
    allow a conversation that is not totally controlled by you.

  90. pozelenore permalink
    February 27, 2009 5:15 pm

    “Wit, I think I have an idea what YOU level of education is”

    Okay, well I chose English to speak to you today. What do you mean by “Wit” ??

    and whatever do you mean by saying “you level of education” ??

    You will have to re post that sentence for it to make sense / Did Nancy Grace mess up your keyboard again?

    Your IP has been identified by several reputable people on the internet, I would not challenge those individuals unless you are completely true blue and also have much to fight for.

    I personally dont care, and if you even think about MY level of education .. you are a moron for doing so. Im a blogger honey.

    You have in fact appeared under many names with the same lame nancy grace crap and now it is catching up with you my fren.


  91. michellefrommadison permalink
    February 27, 2009 5:16 pm

    Wrong again pozelenore in everything you just commented about. Time for your naptime, the facts appear to be scaring you still. Better luck at your kinderfarten class next week. Nity-nite. 🙂

    I know it must be difficult for you to be proven to be wrong so many times. Don’t forget, education could really help you to minimize all the times you look so foolish.

  92. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 5:20 pm

    no–It’s your naptime michelle. Nighty night and bye bye!

  93. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 5:24 pm

    Sorry everyone. I should have taken everyone’s advice and blacklisted her a long time ago. I’ve never banned anyone before so if what I did isn’t correct and she shows up again, I’ll try again when I get back from dinner.

  94. pozelenore permalink
    February 27, 2009 5:25 pm

    How is it Lee tells Casey’s friends, on day one, not to cover for casey, dont lie for her, if there is something you know you must tell. He tells everyone she is a liar and a thief. He asks Tony to check his bank account … he acknowledges that she doesnt tell him the truth.

    And now under oath he says he believes everything casey told him.

    One of these things is not the truth. Geez. Some people just dont understand what you say (or blog) is right there later for comparison, and these two things just dont line up. Will the real Lee Anthony please stand up?

  95. February 27, 2009 5:28 pm

    Thus far the only person I agree with is michellefrommadison,

    Nice to find that there is at least one (more) person who is INTELLIGENT and HONEST still following this case, who doesn’t mistake fact from fiction, and believes in protecting all victim’s rights.

    Should Baez file this motion? Yes, he should…and better!

    Unfortunately, there are just too many persons out there who are ill-informed and or just too busy to care who are JUDGING Casey BEFORE the trial has even started. Thus, her first constitutional right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty has most likely been shattered.

    The prosecution team (along with help from the media) has done nothing but twisted, manipulated, falsified, and undermined this entire investigation. (*Sorry, but I accidently hit the back button or hit the enter key and my intire previous document disappeared).

    So short and sweet version.

    Why does the prosecution team need so desparately to paint Casey Anthony in a negative light? Because thus far, EVERY attempt to LEAK out incriminating details on her before the supporting evidence or final test results were complete has BACK FIRED!!!

    Air samples did NOT confirm human decomposition in the trunk of the car, Cadaver Dog hits on bagged-garbage/dumpster-sites or in this case already decomposed garbage/diapers did NOT and do NOT prove the theory or more importantly the presence of decomposed HUMAN remains, there was NOT a finger print on the duct tape, there was NOT a heart sticker on the duct tape, the isolated piece of cardboard with a heart sticker did NOT belong to Caylee, the heart sticker on this cardboard did NOT match or belong to Caylee, the time of death has NOT been confirmed, Murder as the cause of death was NOT confirmed, Location of the remains on August 11th, August 12th, August 13th, November 15th and November 16th have NOT been confirmed; Identity, location and questioning of the Nanny on ***JUNE 13th, 2008***; late at night (and may or may not include June 14th) has NOT been released or more likely has NOT been conducted (Time lines that are accurately completed that do not purposely omit these dates show the VALIDATION and involvement of a “Nanny” by a person outside of the Anthony family and Caylee was not with anyone in the Anthony family on this date – in the late evening, ANY babysitter(s) or “Nannies” from August 9th, 2005 and forward have NOT been Identified or questioned, and last but not certainly not least…Caylee was NOT Missing or Dead on June 9th, 2008 as FIRST reported.

    Therefore, because the media and prosecution team has managed to warp the minds of so many that are not really listening or paying close attention I speculate that is thier same motive with wanting to release the pictures. Everything else they had up their sleeve … or presumed was going to come back as they had hoped has FAILED.

    I assume they are going to show you pictures of her smiling, dancing and laughing to persuade you to think she was out just having a good ‘ol time. Don’t be FOOLED. Many depressed women and men hang out in bars (could be something as simple as a recent separation or divorce). Pictures of them might appear that they are having fun too – when infact a great number of them are barely holding on to their mental capacities – if not even suicidal. Many a person has drawned their sorrows in alcohol – and too many wake up shocked the next day when they find out their best friend or loved one left to go home and killed themselves. And, yes their closest friends were shocked and didn’t have a clue.

    Don’t be too quick to judge. Let her and her attorney speak.

    Don’t the let the media create another unsolved crime and kill another mother, grandparent or future missing child.

    If we don’t stop and try focusing on All possible SUSPECTS we are leaving the door wide open to yet another child being mislocated and perhaps much worse.

    Sorry, this is so short. Their is so much more that everyone needs to know but I have to go for now.

    All I ask is that you try to remain open minded, honest and intelligent as you can be so that you can see and hear the truth that so many before you have failed to do.

    Thank you

  96. ostella permalink
    February 27, 2009 6:11 pm





  97. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 8:06 pm

    Poze–thanks for holding down the fort! You did an awesome job. Thank you!

    ML- Your IP address is not the same, but your rhetoric and writing style is suspiciously the same.

  98. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 8:08 pm


    Thank you as well. You are correct–the argumentative attitude was perplexing and extremely disruptive.

  99. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 8:09 pm

    John–ML sounds like tina4washington and michelefrommadison but a different IP.

  100. February 27, 2009 8:59 pm

    michelefrommadison and tina4washington have the same ip. She, it, they or he lives in Carrollton, TX a suburb of Dallas and just north of Madison County. I have zeroed in on a name, however will not post it.

    I have wiped her off all my blogs as I consider her a spammer based on what she does here but more so on all the post she makes on every blog and forum all over the net. If she continues to post on my blogs, I will send her/it’s information to the Dallas FBI and complain of stalking. They will go a knocking . I’m fed up with these types of people.

  101. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 27, 2009 10:14 pm

    Good sleuthing, my friend!

    Hopefully we’ve seen the last of her.

  102. MAND permalink
    February 27, 2009 10:49 pm

    What is it with these people from Texas??

    Now before you all get up-set with me I just mean that makes at least two not so nice people from the same state..I meant to say the two we have had of late are from Texas..

  103. ostella permalink
    February 28, 2009 12:33 am

    They’re everywhere, Mand…They’re just BIGGER in Texas… 🙂

  104. azrenee permalink
    February 28, 2009 4:14 am

    ML–Im sorry, but you are obviously avoiding the facts. The fact that a woman has no job definitely goes to the credibility that she was paying a Nanny. The decomp smell is verified by George, and several police officers. Done deal IMO. Partying is different from drowning your sorrows. The imaginary Zanny was teaching Casey a lesson??? More free time with no need for a babysitter is the only lesson she learned. Her life style could be explained if she had family paying her way through college and she was indulging in a few years of fun. They werent and she wasnt…She was looking for a husband–in a group of partying college students??? Obviously impulse driven versus intellect driven. The blogging on this case, the Nancy Grace etc will not prevent C from getting a fair trial. Plenty of people are not interested, nor devote the time many of us have to discovering the facts and developing theories on this case. Innocent until proven guilty is a legal term, not reality based. I think we have all seen trials in the past where that was proven false. On the flipside of that, those people falsely placed on death row had NO media coverage of their cases. If they had perhaps public outrage would have required more time, effective counsel and some psych testing would have been done to determine that some of these people were in fact innocent, or not even mentally competent to even stand trial. Just food for thought…

  105. February 28, 2009 4:40 am

    Dear itsamysterytome,

    Thank you for checking first. No, I am not michellefrommadison or tina4washington (I looked for tina’s message but haven’t come across it yet…so, tina if you were left out I apologize).

    If you will look closey it appears that michellefrommadison’s statements and comments are more likely from a legal view point.

    And, fortunately with the advancement in DNA we have been able to prove that our justice system (including witnesses, lawyers, judges and jurors) have not always been correct in their convictions. Many inmates have been released for crimes ranging from theft to rape or murder because it was later determined by science that they ABSOULUTELY did not commit the crimes that they were accused and sentenced.

    And, as you will notice more of my statements and comments focus on science (biology, microbiology and forensics). So, although it may appear we are supporting the same battle…I assure you for the most part it originated from two VERY differnt perspectives (one legal & one sciece). But, I agree science and forensics has grown in leaps and bounds along with the media (and its entertainment) – making it almost impossible for anyone to get a fair or unbiased trial. Thus, it has become appearently clear – particularly for this specific case (as with many others) – that persons are not following the law and our United States Constitution – which is to presume one innocent until proven guilty.

    These issues in the beginning were never really that noticable to me. They only became important when I suddenly realized not just how bad the media was but how INACCURATE and WRONG the media was.

    Honestly, I don’t know who has told the MOST or the BIGGEST lies in this case – Casey or the Media/NG. It’s definately becoming a toss up for sure; with the media adding more and more marks to its score card.

    I’m sitting there watching Nancy Grace talk about air samples being collected and of course it’s no mystery what her speculation is concerning the reasoning …bla, bla, bla…However, in less than 24 hours she comes back attempting to convince the whole world that accoding to the test we now know Casey is guilty of murder, she killed her daughter, locked her in the trunk of her car and drove around for days with a dead body in the trunk. WHAT??? BULL SH….

    At that time on that date that was ABSOLUTELY 100% impossible to know.

    And, anyone with a certain level of forensic knowlede or background caught that immediately and knew these statements to be non-factual.

    It wasn’t so much that a) even if the test results had been complete or b) had conclusively been able to prove human decomposition…c)this still could NOT prove “murder” (death yes, homicide possibly, murder unable to be determined) etc. etc.

    I was more blown away and nearly in shock when I discovered the Media’s reporting was FAR FAR WORSE and much more sinister than that. What the entertainment industry, media and their legal assistance FAILED to realize was these test results can NOT be determined in that short amount of time and thus, anyone FEEDING this information to them was being totally dishonest and lying to them. These types of test take weeks if not months to complete – before accurate results can be determined.

    It made me cringe just to think how many people might ACTUALLY believe what she had just stated. Heck, I bet Nancy actually believed at the time what she was saying was true (well, until she got the real test results back anyways…but, of course you’ll never hear her come back and apologize for being wrong – she’ll just move right on to the next topic hoping no one is smart enough to notice, brave enough to challenge or curious enough to seek the truth).

    I was astonished to see that Nancy Grace, yes, Nancy, has time and Time AGAIN allowed her self to look and sound like a complete and ignorant Fool on national television; even while displaying a good attitude. Honestly, I just thought she was a hell of a lot smarter than that.

    Hmmm…Nancy is her name, Legal is her game….but, as for forensics and science she is very very lame. Sorry, I just couldn’t resist.

    (*Here is where michellfrommadison and I differ a bit…she would most likely state you can state that a person has been charged, what that charge is, what tests you plan on collecting and running, who you may call to testify, state that you have photos to show, state that you found the “possible” weapon, state that you have DNA samples, fingerprints etc. But, she would not want any results released to the general public before a trial. My biggest concern is that if you want to give out any results before a trial (good or bad) that you must make sure that they are complet and ACCURATE before giving this information to the general public – and if one does not comply – this absolutely should be considered slanderous and punishable by law.)

    Thus, enough about that already… What about the pictures.

    I can’t imagine one picture thus far that could persuade me one way or the other. And, I too have seen a few of them already. I might become green with envy because of her perfect hair, beautiful eyes, gorgeous smile, cute butt and big boobs … but, I would never hold any of this against her and accuse her of being a murderer just for being so pretty.

    Nor, will I accuse a single father with a missing daughter of “incest is best” or “murder” just because I may think he looks, sounds and acts like a redneck.

    If you want me to judge someone to the point of calling them a murderer then please give me a snapshot of them in the act of commiting the crime for starters. And, next allow me the opportunity to question them so that I can get their side of the story.

    Thus, showing the pictures to someone like my self wouldn’t really matter one way or the other. In other words it would not ultimately effect the outcome of the trial – if I were selected to be a juror.

    Unfortunately, this may also be true for most of the general population that appears to be very judgemental and ill-informed. Their belief is KILL, KILL, KILL and their position after seeing the photos may remain the same.

    But, do I agree with Mr. Baez that this should be stopped because the prosecution has no other motive other than to paint Casey in a negative light. Oh, absolutely.

    Come on hasn’t the prosecution already been allowed to cheat, steal and lie enough already by leaking out false information every time we turn around. OMG they already have half the nation believing the cadaver dogs made a hit on human decomposition – when in fact they did not, or that the air samples from the trunk were conclusive for human decomposition – when in fact they were not, they claimed Casey’s finger print was found on the duct tape when in fact it was not, they claimed Caylee was Missing and or Dead on June 9th, 2008 – when in fact she was not, they have claimed that their is no “Nanny”, or Zanny the Nanny – however, there is a police vedio of a non Anthony family member who ID’s this person by their real name AND a written statement by another non Anthony party validating that Caylee was with a Nanny on the night of June 13th, 2008 and written testimony shows that Caylee was not in the company of ANY Anthony family member during this time period late at night. Also, the same person named on the vedio as Zanny the Nanny has been documented as being in the company of Caylee and Casey less than 48 hours before Caylee went missing.

    Raise you hand if you don’t think the prosecution wants to show these pictures in an attempt to show Casey in a negative light.

    So, if they do…oh, well. At least, she is pleasing to look at and I’m sure the Anthony’s have just as many pictues to show of Caylee and Casey together – and I don’t think you’ll ever find a picture of a happier mom than Casey.

    Thank you for allowing us to share.

    P.S. I made an error in my last blog. I stated earlier that they did NOT find a finger print on the duct tape. I apologize, that was a slight typo. I meant to type they did NOT find Casey’s finger print on the duct tape. It has been speculated or suggested that their may be a finger print…however, it has been determined that it DOES NOT belong to Casey Anthony.

    I wonder if we will ever be able to determine who did this…and why?

  106. azrenee permalink
    February 28, 2009 4:57 am

    Wow, Im speechless. Almost. Zanny the nanny exists and you claim there is proof of this?? Not in the phone records, text messages etc etc, and obviously none of the Anthony family members ever met her, since Cindy was willing to speculate that Zanny REALLY was a code word for ” current boyfriend” Ricardo or Amy, or Jesse Grund of all people. Several chemicals were found in the trunk of the car that were consistent with decomp, as well as inconsistent with the famous squirrels–rude to blame innocent animals… As I stated earlier the facts in this case do not point out to Casey necessarily murdering her daughter, you are right. They definitively point to her accidentally killing her at least, and contributing to her death by not reporting to LE, even if you have been star struck by what you refer to as her beauty. That would be a whole different blog, as beauty is certainly in the eye of the beholder. Media and LE only reported Caylee missing as of June 9th because that is what the OHHH so upset mother and grandmother told them. Even a week later, with all the Anthony’s investigation supposedly, it was a picture law enforcement pulled off their computer that verified that Cindy was with Caylee on the 15th of June. No one in the Anthony family cleared that up–LE did. Are you blaming the media for taking the desperately upset mother who should have had that date burned into her brain, but gave LE the wrong date? The existence of the Nanny has NEVER been verified, as well as all the electronic communication with her can not be substantiated. It doesnt exist. This defense will fail. No one will believe any part of Casey having a Nanny to begin with, or Cindy allowing such a Nanny to watch the grand child without her approval. As far as my opinion in a jury—pics of partying 30 days while daughter missing, tatoo, boyfriend not even being told…I dont believe a bit of it.

  107. azrenee permalink
    February 28, 2009 5:02 am

    PS few trials include photographic evidence of the criminal commiting the crime. In this country we dont reward criminals for lying and covering up information long enough for decomposition to eliminate evidence. If you read the discovery again you will realize that ” consistent with” if the only term reputable forensics will use. Anything more than that becomes speculation. Add the pieces of the puzzle together and you get conviction.

  108. azrenee permalink
    February 28, 2009 5:14 am

    Last thought—Does anyone consider Geraldo, LKL or Nancy Grace a ” news show”. I certainly dont. Just because the show may be on CNN or Fox News Network does not make it a reliable source of information. It is speculative, which is why there are opposing viewpoints on NG. I would like to hear an explanation for the following defense nationally aired comments, which I have never seen Uri Mellich, John Allen, or any of the prosecution team on any of these shows making any statements..
    1. We know who has Caylee and they are being watched.
    2. We have a picture of Zenaida Fernadez Gonzalez–LE never received this.
    3. Cayle is alive, alive alive and woe to any credible search effort to find a deceased Caylee.
    4. The news media will be responsible for Caylees death {????}
    5. Casey is afraid for our safety. ( Id have a shotgun and be parked behind my parents door, but thats just me.)
    6. Casey will get the mother of the year award–despite Cindys hateful accusing blog on her myspace account July 3rd.
    7. Casey is being vilified like ” The fugitive”

  109. Marya3804 permalink
    February 28, 2009 8:32 am

    I can’t believe that Lee is going with the Zanny the Nanny story.
    It’s like these space cadets will eventually get people to believe them if they persist. No one in their right mind believes there ever was a nanny. All the laughing that Lee did was crazy. I am afraid
    Cindy and George are going to follow suit and claim the same story.
    They are making a big mistake. How twisted can one family be? It’s like watching Twilght Zone. They are following Casey’s instructions.

  110. PozeLenore permalink
    February 28, 2009 1:07 pm

    ML has re-written an interesting post. Unfortunately, there is an element of Nancy Grace bashing that is familiar, and many of the typos are the very same. Very few people make the same errors. I know a typesettng business that has 2 people type the same document, comparing and editing, knowing 2 typists will not likely make the same errors. Its the business Im in, so Im noticin, sorry, not to perpetuate an argument, but I think its not so easy to be fooled ….

    That in itself makes me wonder. And also, where, ML, were you all this time, agreeing with michellefrommadison, but only NOW do you post this agreement and similar presentation, also nonsense about NG show??
    WHY, you must have been lurking, right there all along? Due you are the very next post … timing is everything, something Casey should have thought about with all of those June 16 texts.

    This revelation that a nonanthony family member knows about Zanny, this is something I hope you, along with michellefrommadison, bring to law enforcement’s attention. Instead of trying to wow us, if you really have something that new, why dont you call LE with it yourself.

    And I cant see how ML decided the media was wrong, and unfair, before “understanding any of the issues of this case.” What could make you decide it was innaccurate before you had any of the “facts”?


    John I agree with you about having enough of this, but the oldest and wisest solution to these posters is to ignore them.

    And from here this is what Poze will do, I dont believe someone named ML just miraculously appears the same moment Michelle gets the boot and happens to agree, sound the same, make the same spelling errors, and the same blaming arrogance. And please if anyone here thinks to describe Casey’s beauty, believe that it will probably be met with a disagreement. Lets not all decide that Casey is attractive, just becuase she SEEMS attractive, certainly that has not been proven in any way either. That is just as subjective as her guilt. Is it not?

    Poor Lee laughs when nervous, listen at 3:45 where he almost says
    his mom was just passing on the “lie” and catches himself.
    It is spooky how his mannerisms are so like his sister.
    I want to like him but I just cant trust that face.

    Good morning to all of yall in Texas. Yall.

  111. PozeLenore permalink
    February 28, 2009 1:16 pm

    AZrenee: I agree with you nancy grace is not necessarily a news show

    there is a big difference between entertainment news
    and real news. We get that. Nancy gets that.

    Please ignore some of my spelling errors, im am very tired, I did mean Dude instead of “due” but whatever, we hopefully get what i meant.

    I cant think how either of the Anthony parents will survive the kind of questioning Lee went through. They have the kind of faces that will show it all. We all get messages from faces, different for us all, but in our mind, a judgement for safety is made from a glance at a person’s face.

    And I cant make myself trust these 2 parents when I see them move, speak, laugh and squeeze their words as though they were guarding them.

    Sometimes Cindy puts her hand to her mouth as though to stop them. Just a thought.

    I will let the others have some room in here now, sorry.

  112. February 28, 2009 2:58 pm

    Hi itsamysterytome,

    Your bloggers have proved my point exactly. I was hoping to find at least a few Intelligent and Honest people who would be willing to at least discuss the facts – the real facts – in this case. But, you have none.

    Unfortunately, they have been brain washed by too much Nancy Grace (or gossip) and take what she says to be true at face Value.

    I can’t believe there are still people who believe the air samples came back to prove murder or homicide. If there going to watch Nancy Grace – then at least follow the story consistently – or at least watch the news or read other sources that provide results from the actual scientific data. My last blog pointed out that she released “results” on her show …3-6 weeks before the results were complete. What a gross error – at that time she did not, I did not, you did not and even the forensic scientists did not know what the test results would be. However, later she did invite Dr. Lee, world’s top forensic scientist, on her show to share his opinions. Turns out he was exactly right …which is what any normal person (with microbiology and forensic training)had thought all along. In other words… would these test be able to prove conclusively that there was decomposition of HUMAN remains when in fact there was already the existance of rotting possibly decomposing Food & Garbage as evidenced by the amount of flies and maggots inside the pieces of rotten pizza etc.?

    Thus, for those who weren’t patient enough to wait for the test results to be completed and lab reports documented, or didn’t catch the news or Nancy Grace as she tip-toed around I’ll try to fill you in on what you missed if you are interested in fact and not fiction.

    The test results could NOT prove conclusively the existance of decomposition of any Human Remains in the trunk of the car. The end.

    Did the test results prove that the rotting food and garbage had decomposed or began to decompose? No, not conclusively (although a few elements show that it may have).

    Bottom line, the air samples could NOT even conclusively prove the existing rotting food and garbage (still inside the trunk) had any evidence of decomposition.

    So, I’m sorry if you don’t like these results or don’t agree with them, but these are the results and they collected many Many MANY air samples and performed several tests before releasing this information. And, yes, I fully understand some people will never really get it – just like they don’t get DNA or fingerprinting. But, to each his own.

    However, my concern(s) at the time were not about the final results. I had two very important questions when the air samples were collected. First, I wanted to know how Nancy Grace claimed to know Caylee was dead or murdered (by her mother) the day AFTER the air samples were collected; according to (her) “results” – when our top forensic scientists did not have any “results” yet and would need weeks if not months to complete these test. (Wow, the scientists had just received the samples, most likely hadn’t even begun testing – And, Nancy already had the results…..she’s GOOOOOOOD; maybe she should quit her day job if she’s really that smart). And, second, I wanted to know if when the air samples were being tested “for decomposition” was it being tested for “Human decomposition” as opposed to “any decomposition”? With 15-20 years in the medical field and 9 years of biology, microbiology, chemistry. chemical analysis, physics and physical analogy AND with the knowledge that they found rotting food and garbage already existing in the trunk of the car I thought that this may be challeging to prove…at the very least. For starters, if they were only testing for “any decomposition” – and if the test had came back conclusive -wouldn’t the rotting garbage possibly show signs of some decomposition just by itself thus, altering test results just a little – thus, wouldn’t they have to come back later and prove “human decomposition” as opposed to “rotting food and garbage decomposition”.

    But, for now it is a mute point – the test results could NOT even conclusivley prove decomposition of the rotting garbage (much less a human body).

    I’ll try to come back later and share more about this case. I have recently come across more information about the “Nanny” (and hopefully I can find the web address for the vedio of the cop interviewing someone who does give an actual name for this person (not Zenaida) ….and that person does exist according to police reports) Check out time lines to see who Casey and Caylee were with on June 12, 2008. This is the person that is named as “Zanny the Nanny” in a taped police/detective interview with a male figure inside of Caey’s cluster of friends. June 13, 2008 is the FIRST time/date that Anthony Lazarro uses the term “Nanny” when being investigated by the cops. In a written statement by Lazarro he claims Casey spent the night, but Caylee did not because she was with the “Nanny”. In a separate statement the Anthony’s (George and Cindy) state that neither Casey nor Caylee were with them on the Night of June 13th, 2008. To make it even more interesting…through hundreds of phone calls, text messaging, emails etc. I only came across this person once. Police knew of this person before hand as evidenced in the vedio. This person claims to be Casey’s “best friend”…but yet, she is never around Casey and all her other friends (according to text messages, emails and phone call records from the “one” phone).

    June 12th, 2008 – Casey and Caylee go for a walk in the park with C.C. She later tells investigators she is Casey’s best friend.

    Junde 13th, 2008 – Anthony Lazarro gives a statement that Casey spent the night but that Caylee did not because she was with the “Nanny”.
    In a separate statement George and Cindy Anthony confirm that neither Casey or Caylee spend the night with them.

    June 14th – I can’t find any pertinent information and I don’t know if Casey or Caylee were with George and Cindy or not.

    June 15th, 2008 – Caylee goes with grandma, Cindy, to go see her greatgrandfather in the assisted living facility for Father’s Day.

    June 16th, 2008 – Is the last day George and Casey ever see Caylee. Allegedly, this is the day Caylee is missing

    Sometime after July 18th, 2008 – police interview one of many of Casey’s friends – concerning “Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez”.

    In the interview this person states he doesn’t know “Z.F.G.”, so the cop ask him again, you don’t know “Zenaida”.

    So, the cop asks him again, so you don’t know who “Zanny the Nanny” is.

    Then, he stops..oh you mean the Nanny, the babysitter, yes, I know who she is. He continues talking with the detective and validates their is a nanny and both he and the cop give up the (same) name, I’ll just give initials, “C.C.”

    Now, look and see who Casey and Caylee were with on June 12, 2008. Commpare this name to all text messages, phone calls, emails etc. – you may find her once (she doesn’t hang out w/ Casey’s normal group of friends)…but, she tells detectives she is Casey’s best friend.

    How strange.

    Well gotta go for now. Hope to be back later. Don’t forget this blog is mainly about the PHOTOS to be released so please don’t forget to share your view points about that!!

    I’ts almost my Birthday and my husband thinks he should take me out (okay if he insists). Going to Orlando, Florida of all places.

    Catcha later.

  113. Marya3804 permalink
    February 28, 2009 3:14 pm

    It was almost Caylee’s birthday, too. You know what she got.
    Stay away from the parks. There is a serial nanny out there!
    Maybe a nice jailhouse visit to Casey would be the icing on your
    birthday cake.

  114. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 28, 2009 7:46 pm


    Not a lot to add to what’s been said here EXCEPT, I agree with you Poze about ML.


    Please provide links to the things you are proclaiming to be the real truth. Specifically:

    1) Show me where it says there was NOT human decomposition in the trunk of the car. My recollection is that there was reason to believe there WAS human decomp in the car.

    2) Provide a link to someone that says they personally knew the nanny. No one said Casey didn’t “refer to a nanny”, but I don’t recall anyone saying they ever met, or spoke with a nanny.

    3) refer to azrenee’s post 6 comments back. She pretty much covered it all.

    No more allegations–just facts backed by hard evidence.

    I have to say again that I agree with Poze. You are suspiciously similar in writing style and content to michellefrommadison.

    And ML–I consider myself and my fellow bloggers to be intelligent and honest. If you want to have an intelligent conversation about facts, bring real facts along with the proof that they are facts.

  115. BEES KNEES permalink
    February 28, 2009 8:38 pm

    Thank you for the much-needed humour and the healthy dose of reality, azrenee! I know a troll when I smell one!

  116. BEES KNEES permalink
    February 28, 2009 8:40 pm

    Yes, PozeLenore!! I see you can smell a troll too! heh heh heh. We’re too smart for it.

  117. BEES KNEES permalink
    February 28, 2009 8:53 pm

    michelle, tina, ML . . . I’ve come across this troll many, many times. I call him/her Sybil. Remember her? she had like 20 personalities, at least. Sybil honestly believes if s/he changes his/her username people will believe it’s someone new!!! She has an intense obsession with Nancy Grace, to say the least.

  118. BEES KNEES permalink
    February 28, 2009 8:54 pm

    Goodnight PozeLenore, AZrenee and Mystery!

  119. itsamysterytome permalink*
    February 28, 2009 9:04 pm

    Sybil–I love it, Bees Knees. Goodnight!

  120. March 1, 2009 8:43 am

    Hi itsamysterytome,

    GRACE: With me, before I lose him, I want to go to Dr. Henry Lee, who is taking time out of his travel schedule to join us tonight. You know Dr. Henry Lee originally probably from the Orenthal James Simpson double murder trial, forensic scientist. He has examined Casey Anthony`s car. He is a consultant on the Anthony defense team. Dr. Lee?


    GRACE: Friend.

    LEE: I haven`t talked to you for a while.

    GRACE: I know. I`ve been missing you, Dr. Lee. It`s nice to hear your voice. So did the car still stink to high heaven when you examined it?

    LEE: Yes, when I examine the car, it still have the odor.

    GRACE: Now, Dr. Lee, your testimony has been extremely impressive in the past. No one will ever forget the various demonstrations that you have done in high-profile court cases. When you say it smelled, is it true the car smells of decomposition?

    LEE: The smell — actually, it`s a rotten smell. It`s caused by any type of decomposition. The definition of decomposition, anything. It can be any food material. Can be human body. Can be any type of thing, decomposition. So the terms decomposed, human body odor, I don`t think any scientist can qualify to say — just smell the odor, say that`s a human body.

    GRACE: Well, Dr. Henry Lee — everyone, with us, he is on the Anthony defense team — I know that you have the highest regard for the Oak Ridge Laboratories in Tennessee. I trained there myself for a period of time. According to them, and their — their specialty unit, the “body farm,” there was evidence of human decomposition. Would that be consistent with the smell that you smelled, Dr. Henry Lee?

    LEE: Here, that`s — you know, I`m a scientist. I only can address some scientific issue. I cannot speculate. Decomposition, because the trunk — don`t forget, I looked at not only the car. Also looked at the liner, the carpet. Also looked at the content of the material. And I don`t know anybody informed me or not — there are a lot of garbage was collected. A lot of material was collected from the trunk.

    GRACE: Like what?

    LEE: Like what? Like food, like meat, like pizza box, like cheese, like ham, box (ph) of soda, and all different material in there. So basically, a lot of maggots and a lot of insects, all kind of material mixed together. So I cannot really elaborate too much on what I found because this is an active case. I cannot really reach a conclusion at this moment.

    Taped interview from November 17, 2008

    (November 17, 2008 is much later than Nancy’s ORIGINAL taped sessions when samples were first collected back in July 2008. I still DISAGREE that she had “any results” within 24 hours back in July 2008. First, the samples were not even sent to the body farm until August 10, 2008 and even as late as November 17, 2008 Dr. Henry Lee was still working on the case and had not reached any CONCLUSIONS.) Thus, the evidence of human decomposition based on smell (as Nancy believes) is not scientific as pointed out by Dr. Henry Lee, a forensic scientist.

    Lab Results:
    “The test results could NOT prove conclusively the existance of decomposition of any Human Remains in the trunk of the car.”

    (These are the only results that I have heard or seen released by the laboratory – sorry, but I didn’t record all of the News channels that day; some were local and some were national but this is the results that were finally released).

    1C)Some of the arguments outlined against death include:

    * The techniques used to analyze hair and air samples from the trunk of Anthony’s car to prove evidence of a body are “novel, experimental, in the early stages of development, inconclusive and highly susceptible to mishandling,” Lenamon wrote. Even if the evidence is enough for a guilty verdict, it would not be enough to support the death penalty, according to the report.

    From November 6, 2008,0,6911146.story

    1D) With all the evidence mounting against Caylee’s mother Casey, it seems like a long shot the little girl will ever come home. From the mysterious “nanny” Casey claimed was watching after Caylee, to her chloroform recipe search, the partying and — most of all — Casey’s father George’s revelation that he noticed the “familiar” stench of death in the trunk of Casey’s car.

    Caylee and Casey Anthony Gallery
    Whatever George Anthony smelled, Dominic is convinced it was not Caylee Marie. “There is no indication in any of the forensic reports,” insists Dominic, “that say that the decomposition was of a human nature. They are all inconclusive.”

    November 10, 2008

    2) Still working on finding this – (kicking my self for not writing down the web address but I was looking at other information when I located it) – I was looking at CNN news websites and Fox35news Orlando web sites that day – in one of their sites their was a picture of the detective interviewing a young male and it had the little arrow to push to listen to the interview, so I did. I’m positive the name of the male being interviewed was on the list of names for Who’s Who so I’ll give you that link for now. (*C.C. will also appear on this list.)Please be patient – I want to find this probably more than you want me to find this. I pray it wasn’t Danta Salati b/c some have speculated that he has left the country.


    also if interested in a pretty descent time line:

    3) I apologize. I did hesitate before including this information; for that reasoning b/c I was afraid it might be misinterpreted and come across as such. But, if it makes pozelenore feel better please let him know I didn’t post my complete level. In fact I was trying to emphasize, that BEFORE this level I may have never even known to question the validity of these tests on many levels. But, yes, I am very open minded as to what really happened – and I think it SUCKS that there was already rotting garbage. This additional element is unfortunate for everyone no matter what your gut feelings are (or what side of the fence you are sitting on in this case). I of all people don’t necessarily have a problem with forensics exploring new territory – I just wish the first case could have involved a clean car or a least a car without garbage in the trunk.

    And, this doesn’t even include the factor of having or not having already tested and validated base line test results to compare these samples.

    *4) When and if I speculate a point I will state it is a speculation. I wish others could do the same – it seriously confuses those that (already) want to kill Casey Anthony.

    We all have our speculations or questions why Casey would just come up with this “Nanny”, “Zanny the “Nanny” or “Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez” real or immaginary person. Is it one person, is it two, is it three? Do all of them exist or some or none?

    And, I don’t mean to say anything bad about Casey directly, but I think it is pretty fair to say, and I am speculating, that she may be a habitual lier.

    So, it did bother me when she named a Ms. Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez as the babysitter, and when the body was eventually found it was found across the street from a home owner by the name of Mr. Hernandez Gonzalez less than 3/8 of a mile from her home. Was this some bizarr coincidence, had the cops missed something during their initial search, did Casey or the cops perhaps mispronounce or mispell the name?

    But, then what about the ZFG at Sawgrass apt. on 6/16/08 vs. the ZFG at Sawgrass apt. on 6/17/08. The one from 6/17/08 as we all know does exist and came forward stating it was not her. Cops take a photo of this woman to Casey (in jail) and ask is this the ZFG you left Caylee with. Casey, who wants desparately to be out of jail, takes one look at the photo…and suddenly starts telling the TRUTH and states no, that’s not the ZFG that has Caylee.

    And, when I find the interview clip with the cop and one of her male friends it will only get more interesting – fact or fiction. Because there is a friend, who claims he doesn’t know ZFG, he doesn’t know Zenaida, but he does know who “Zanny the Nanny” is and he points the finger at C.C. The friend being interviewed does exist as evidenced by police reports, the actual interview coverage and text messages, emails and or phone call records made by Casey. So, is the friend lieing as well or is there a “Zanny the Nanny”?

    And, I know most of you don’t and never have believed there was a Nanny, Zanny the Nanny, or ZFG. And, from your point of view – okay, I get that.

    But, everyone has their own point of view and their own reasons for them. If I may bore you for just a little while longer I would like to share with you why it is so pertinent that I want to know all the details and all the facts and not just the law enforcements (and now prosecution team’s) speculations as to what may have happened.

    Does anyone know Jessica Lunsford, Trenton Duckett, Caylee Anthony and now just a few months later Haleigh Cummings? Do these cases ring a bell to any of you? They WERE all from the Florida area (all within a short driving distance from each other) and they have all been TAKEN from us. Their lives and stories are all very similar and their cases bare too many similarities.

    Jessica Lunsford’s body was found across the street from her grandparents’ home buried in her neighbors front yard, Trenton Duckett, cared for by his mother and at times his great-grandparents has not been found, Caylee’s remains have just been discovered less than 3/8 of a mile from her grandparents’ home and we are (already) currently searching for little Haleigh who lived down the street from her grandmother’s home. All 4 children were from single parent backgrounds (mom’s and dad’s). All 4 children were (allegedly) taken while with the single petite female or while with elderly grandparents. If the single parent was male – the child was taken away while the father was away late at night.

    So, personally I want to know, I need to know. This pattern has been continuing in Florida for over 35 years (or more). Not every child has been as lucky as I was. But, if I can help save just one more child by making sure we are prosecuting the right person…I personally, don’t see any harm in that.

    5) To arzene:

    I can’t answer to all of your speculations and commits – there just too bizarr for me to comprehend right now.

    But, to answer just a few:

    A) Do I blame the law enforcement and media more than a distressed and stressed mother and grandmother about reporting the wrong date for Caylee’s disappearance?

    Absolutely!! LE was told by Casey and Cindy that the child had been missing for “30-31 days” and this was reported to him on July 15th – that would make the date of Caylee’s disappearance on or about June 16th – and not June 9th. So, even if he didn’t go out and confirm this information – SIMPLE math should have pointed him in this direction at some point. Do I expect that Cindy or Casey in this frame of mind to be able to go back and calculate correctly, no, not necessarily – written documents show how stressed they both were at this moment. And, the media followed suit. They didn’t do their own investigating before hand and AGAIN didn’t notice the math error. Thus, the media has been known to report what ever is given to them under thier nose – fact or fiction and has continued to do so. I’ll admit this example is not as Gross an error as most of their mishaps since this case has started.

    B)When I put all the pieces to the puzzle together I DON’T at this point get conviction. I won’t go into any detail here – you can revisit my blogs and read my commits to see what my questions and concerns are that have NOT been either 1) answered or 2) proven beyond reasonable doubt. Thus, I am obligated under Florida Law to give an innocent verdict. (And, I say that theoretically, because the trial hasn’t even started, so of course I don’t have any thoughts or plans for a conviction – for starters that would be breaking the law and secondly, I haven’t been given any pieces that point me in that direction at this time). And, yes I fully understand that most cases do not involve a picture of someone commiting the actual crime – hince the statement about if their is a picture of this then maybe it would be a wise idea for the prosecution to let me see it. Perhaps, you took my statement completely out of context.

    C) Please don’t speculate that I am a Nancy Grace basher (you don’t know me or have any facts to suggest that I am). I have no reason to belive that NG is a pedephile or rapist – and I hope she helps to find everyone of these types of individuals and bring them to justice!!!!! I just don’t want to let another one slip through the cracks again(from possibly bad reporting). Don’t forget I was also, able to reach out to Nancy about the air sample fiasco – but, she redeemed herself by inviting Dr. Lee on to clarify some of the misconceptions and to confirm that testing was NOT complete even as late as late November. And, yes, I highly value Dr. Lee’s opinion and so does Nancy. Which, hopefully, by now that wouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone.

    D)Where is all the anger coming from? Are you just tired?

    E) I don’t understand the reasoning behind contacting LE about the “Nanny being C.C.” as reported by Casey’s friend and the detective – if I’m watching the actual interview I think they know. Don’t you? But, perhaps suggesting that I report this information to Mr. Baez, or Mr. and Mrs. Anthony may be more useful. Don’t you agree?

    Thank you itsamysterytome. It’s been a pleasure. I’m sorry that some of your company has such an angry streak. Not my cup of tea.

  121. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 1, 2009 9:43 am


    I’ll scanned over your comment and will read it with more care when I get back in a couple of hours. Thanks. (and I think I no longer think you are michellefrommadison. However, lets try and eliminate the name calling and insults–we can have a conversation without it and your points will be much more effective.)

  122. PozeLenore permalink
    March 1, 2009 1:05 pm

    “Your bloggers have proved my point exactly. I was hoping to find at least a few Intelligent and Honest people who would be willing to at least discuss the facts – the real facts – in this case. But, you have none.”

    that is what ML said to begin with. I do feel I am intelligent enough and honest enough. What a terrible cup of tea indeed. Change chairs, new cup. (alice in wonderland)

    The only time I heard CC was as a nickname for family friend, as this is the way Caylee pronounced it.

    None of this, IMO, is going to really matter when you have a dead baby, a mom that didnt act right about it, and the body so close to home, her behavior. Thats probably going to be enough.

    And I want to say, on the subject of getting fair jurors, we are all fair jurors and it offends me to hear someone say we would be unfair in any case, overinformed or not, bc it is more than possible that each chosen juror would try to find justice as they see it, and that is going to be their job. We dont want a jury of rabbits.

    i think a perfectly good jury will be chosen either way

  123. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 1, 2009 3:46 pm

    Where to begin in this super long post of yours ML? Okay, deep breath, here goes!

    1. You are going to find experts from both sides of the table when this goes to court. One bunch will declare the air samples are valid, cutting edge, and prove that there could have been human decomp in the trunk. The other bunch will cry foul saying it’s junk science and it proves nothing. As for using Dr Lee as the ultimate “expert”, fame has destroyed his credibility, and he has been accused of planting evidence in a case. He may be the most skilled forensic scientist in the world, I don’t know, but he has allowed his ego to cloud his judgement. In any case, both sides will present their experts and it will be up to a jury to decide who to believe.

    2. I think it’s safe to say it is a fact that Casey Anthony is a compulsive liar. Too many people, including her mother and brother have stated it as fact.

    3 )Caylee’s body was found behind and between 4701 and 4709 Hopespring Drive–4701 was owned by a person with the last name of Gonzales and 4709 was owned by a person with the first name of Zenaida. Zenaida Gonzales. This is the area according to Kiomarie Kruz, where she and Casey used to bury their pets.

    In a telephone conversation from the jail, Lee asked Casey if he thought Caylee was alright. Her response?

    CASEY: “My gut feeling? As mom asked me yesterday and even Jose asked me last night, the psychologist asked me this morning that I got through the court, um in my gut she’s still ok. And it still feels like she’s CLOSE TO HOME.”

    That, my friend, may be the only true statement Casey Anthony has uttered since the night her mother called “911” and said it “…smelled like a dead body in the damn car.

    To me this is beyond coincidence.

    It will be hard, if another Zenaida Gonzales doesn’t turn up, for Baez to get around this damning information. Almost as hard as the fact that she waited 31 days to report her daughter missing, AND, discounting the photos, the EYEWITNESS testimony of a bevy of her friends swearing under oath that they partied with her during that time. They have said she seemed fine, and that anytime anyone asked about Caylee she said she was with Cindy–and when Cindy would ask, she said she was with Zanny.

    4) I’m sorry, but I don’t see the similarities in the cases of Jessica Lunsford, Trenton Duckett, Caylee and Haleigh that you are suggesting other than the fact that they were all missing children. Jessica Lunsford’s killer was caught long before Caylee disappeared. It is suspected that Melinda Duckett did something with her child and it is suspected that Casey Anthony did something with her child. It is too soon to know enough information in the Haleigh Cummings case to even speculate. No coincidences that I can see that would suggest a serial killer or even copycat killers.

    5) The dates of June 9th and the 16th were corrected rather quickly. The media reported what it was given. They also corrected themselves when the true date was discovered. And yes, Cindy was upset. Casey, on the other hand, was eerily calm.

    6) CC (Christina?Kristina Chester?) was at the house according to Lee when Casey called the day after she was incarcerated the first time. It is her on the telephone with Casey saying “Casey, I’ll just die if anything happened to Caylee!” (paraphrasing) and Casey angrily brushed her off. She was more interested in getting her boyfriend’s phone #.

    WHEW! ML, if we have another discussion, I would appreciate it if we could do it, ONE point per comment and reply at a time. It’s difficult to follow and respond to what you have written when the post is so long.

    Also, please remember to be polite in your response. I won’t tolerate any more insults and name calling aimed at the other bloggers. I believe you can make your points without being mean and sarcastic. If you can’t, find another outlet to vent in.

    We are all intelligent, civilized individuals here, and each of us has the right to our own opinion without worrying we are going to be attacked if that opinion differs from someone elses.

  124. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 1, 2009 3:51 pm


    I agree with you that a jury will be seated that will satisfy both sides.

    I also agree that Casey is her own worst witness whether she ever takes the stand or not. (and of course, she won’t) 31 days, Cindy drags her in from a month of thieving and partying, lies, lies, and more lies, lack of emotion–no Zenaida, Caylee’s body found between the houses of Zenaida and Gonzales. (no coincidence IMO) the list goes on.

  125. Samantha permalink
    March 11, 2009 11:42 pm


  126. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 12, 2009 9:24 am


    I responded on your previous comment but thought I would do it again here.

    Lee Anthony is not the father of Caylee. This has been proven with DNA testing and it was released in the document dump on February 18, 2009.

    Here’s a link to Lee’s DNA test results:

    just click on it and it will take you to the document. Go to page 62. (at the top left of the page there are the page numbers, click to page 62.

    the document states the following: Based on the STR typing results, DNA obtained from the speciman Q18-1, (Caylee Anthony) could not have originated from a biological offspring of the individual represented by speciman K9 (Lee Anthony)

  127. PozeLenore permalink
    March 12, 2009 4:33 pm

    Think Baez made an idiot of himself today in courtroom.

    Just me. 🙂 Nice churchgirl outfit on casey. She wouldnt have been caught dead in anything like that out at fusion.

    Im sure Cindy was thinking back there, gee, she herself removed things from the trunk before any o’yall got there !! This is the thought bubble I see over her head. Again, just me. 🙂

    Its rather comforting to watch them all squirm already.

  128. sophie permalink
    March 12, 2009 7:45 pm

    PozeLenore you are so right! It was Cindy Anthony who removed the pants from Casey’s car and washed them. What else did she remove? We will never know because she is all about protecting Casey regardless of knowing her granddaughter most likely laid dead in that car.
    When did she remove the pants? Before or after she found Casey? I agree that Casey is innocent until proven guilty, but how do you get past the 31 days of partying and no report of Caylee missing? How do you explain no phone records of Casey calling or being called by any Zenaida Gonzalez? Why would an innocent grieving mother lie to the police who are only there to help find her child? Why were there so many items found with Caylee’s remains that came from the Anthony home? Why did Casey have no reaction when they possibly found bones at Blanchard Park, but she has an axiety attack when bones are found near her home? Why did Casey tell cops that the nanny had ZERO kids and yet in her lawsuit against Zenaida she clearly states that the nanny had TWO children! Why did she go to Universal to show cops her office where she supposedly lost the phone with Zanny’s phone number when she had been fired 2 years earlier. It just seems that common sense would prevail at some point and that if you truly are innocent that you would have no need to lie and you would be doing everything to help the police and be totally honest. Finally, why would she tell police she left Caylee at Sawgrass with the nanny and then when she was first released on bail – she tells Lee that actually she met the nanny at Blanchard Park and that is where the nanny stole Caylee. If you can muddle your way through all the lies maybe somewhere lies the truth of what really happened to Caylee.

  129. The lunitic is on the Grass permalink
    March 12, 2009 10:52 pm

    Everyone all together-uummmmmmmmmm,uummmmmm.
    What a moron,best thing the crazyone could do would be to fire the Hosey one.Hosey,the outfit,say heehaw!!PL your rite she would not be caught in the OF.Someone give this jerkoff a block of cheese to go with his whine,my kid don’t whine like him.So just how is this defence team being paid??I may have missed sumpthin!!Parents of the year were in court,to support the kiddie killer.They should be ready to give depostions now don’t you think,get there asses in there asap, lets get some answers!!
    Spacecase has no court room sauve,wait til the prosecutor gets up give there spin on things,maybe then it will sink in just how deep in the doo she really is,yes SQUIRM the whole lot of em,especially you Sindy.

  130. Marya3804 permalink
    March 13, 2009 4:37 am

    Noticed Princess Casey with her pen in hand at the court proceedings
    yesterday. What can she put on paper that would help her? Surely
    she’s not still scribbling Mrs. Tony Lazzaro!!!
    Glad to see George and Cindy managed once again to show up for their
    innocent daughter. Weren’t they too fragile last time they were
    Jose might win this case if he can get all the facts thrown out!
    It’s going to be tough to watch a complete trial. The “Mother of the
    Year” makes me to slap her.

  131. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 13, 2009 9:58 am

    The dream team was the big loser yesterday. If this is an example of how hotshot Baden and our boy Jose are going to defend Casey, the prosecution should have smooth sailing—even without Ivy League degrees.

    I do think it’s time for Cindy and George to give their depositions. Will Conway bring the doctor’s note and get them out of testifying? We’ll see.

  132. PozeLenore permalink
    March 13, 2009 12:03 pm

    Marya very funny, Mrs … oh, thats right, mrs never. Never going to get married. But then, never is caylee now.

    And the worst of she has done, is to muddy the investigative waters in the face of many children being taken in that area, how can she use this time from law enforcement where it is truly needed? She weakened the system by dilution. And she knows it is not legitimate, and that Hayleigh may be. There is someone out there taking children in Florida .. and Casey is getting all the face time just for her lying story … I follow it too, mezzed. I wonder where is that little disabled boy who was playing outside .. and then was gone. But this is one of the costs of Casey, there will be more. I hope she wakes to the haunting cooing of her baby in her ear, a memory she wont erase.

    Ohhhhhhhhh … the bitchpuddin startin early this morning, sorry!

    I shall consult the coffee for calm.

  133. itsamysterytome permalink*
    March 13, 2009 12:39 pm


    You are so right. Casey is a whole different story from Haleigh and Adji. Haleigh is getting coverage, but what about Adji? I haven’t seen anything in the news about him in a long time.

  134. Marya3804 permalink
    March 13, 2009 1:29 pm

    Can we even imagine the state funds that have been spent on the Anthonys? I have always said they needed their own police force and
    that was before Caylee was missing. I almost expect someone to jump
    from behind the lawyers to “help Casey along”.
    The last I heard about Adji was that law enforcement was still searching the Creole (maybe misspelled) community where he lived.

    About Haliegh, her dad and his brand new wife/previous live-in were
    on a morning show. They do not seem forthcoming to me. The dad said
    that this is what Haliegh would have wanted. He was talking about his marriage to Misty. But why would he speak in past tense? She is still considered abducted.

  135. Tubesocks permalink
    December 2, 2009 9:12 am

    michellefrommadison – attacking victims’ rights advocates and defending a child murderer?? Have fun in hell you disgusting piece of garbage.

  136. Carol permalink
    April 20, 2010 1:45 pm

    This woman’s pictures mean nothing to me because we already know what she is like.

    She never wanted this child NEVER so the only thing she could do was to get rid of her in the way she did and blame everyone she could even invent a baby sitter and make a mess of her life.

    If those pictures would do something for the case that is one thing but to me it won’t do anything except for the people that want to entertained.

    The fact of the matter is this beautiful child is dead and for no other reason but because nobody cared to protect her not even her grand parents that “loved” her.

    So for that reason alone she is guilty of this murder because the one person that was supposed to protect her didn’t and that is plain and simple.

  137. Carol permalink
    April 20, 2010 1:59 pm

    I couldn’t agree with Samantha more if I tried I wanted them to test the grandfather of DNA to see if he weren’t the father of Caylee from the very start.

    To me he seemed a little to close to his daughter I am a rape victim myself and I know how my brother-in-law was with me he never wanted me far out of his sight and was always omni present and I lied about that for many many many years.

    From the beginning she said her father and brother raped her and that is something you never ever lie about because you just don’t. I when I look at her mother and see how she runs the entire show NOTHING NOTHING would surprise me.

    She might have killed her because of the hate she had for her father and as she grew in her belly it grew and when she was growing the hate grew with it to the point when she reached the age of speaking it was to much for her and she wanted to silence her.

    Why did he all of sudden have a nervous breakdown because that child was is and he knew it and realized his child will no longer be with him. If you really look at that beautiful child she looks exactly like grandfather.

    This entire family is so sick I really don’t have the words and that is a fact.

  138. itsamysterytome permalink*
    April 20, 2010 5:11 pm

    Carol–I know how you feel. This woman is beyond disgusting. However, the pictures are important for one reason. It shows how Casey behaved after her daughter disappeared and it sure wasn’t the way someone that was worried where her child is would act. Not all of the pictures were taken after Caylee disappeared but some of them were. The ones that weren’t speak to the fact that Casey liked to party–more than she liked taking care of her baby. Many have wondered who exactly was taking care of Cayleewh ile Casey partied on.

    As for George, DNA tests were done on him and Lee. It’s in the released discovery. They were eliminated as possible birth fathers.

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