video of Jim Hoover deposition
Below are the videos and content summary from Wednesday, March 25th’s depostion of Jim Hoover by John Morgan, Zenaida Gonzales’ attorney. Dominic Casey was supposed to be deposed but he canceled for unknown reasons. According to Fox News in Orlando, he could face contempt charges.
This is basically Morgan trying to establish who exactly Jim Hoover is and why he had associated himself with the Anthony family. Hoover appeared quite nervous and was agitated by some of the questions, saying he didn’t understand what they (the questions Morgan asked about his job history) had to do with this case.
This one talks about how he was volunteering his services to the Anthonys as a private citizen. He did not work for them. He said he acted as a security guard for the Anthonys as opposed to doing much investigative work. He said he has been in the Anthony house–his wife made them a bread pudding that he delivered. The last time he spoke with Cindy she had called to just chat. He had also acted as a driver for the Anthonys.
The only time D. Casey asked him to do any investigative work was when he asked him to help look for Caylee’s body in the area where she was later found. He accompanied D. Casey, Cindy, and George to the Ritz the night they returned from Ca. They were in a limousine and he followed in his car behind them. Thursday night he had dinner with Caitlynn from ABC, George, Cindy, Mallory, Lee, Dominic, and Jose made a brief appearance to eat. Conversation was light–nothing about the case or what had been discovered. After dinner, G. & C. went to their room. He stayed in the general area of the room, and the lobby. Later, D. Casey asked him to meet him outside the hotel. D. Casey and C. were outside the building together, and they asked him to take the key to the house and lock it up after the police were done searching. He shared a room with D. Casey that was near George and Cindy’s room. Michelle Bart, their PR person stayed on another floor. He was under the impression that Caitlynn and ABC paid for everything. D. Casey told him that Jose Baez had received money for Casey for some video tapes from ABC. It was between $200,000-$225,000. They stayed, Thurs, Fri, Sat and left on time for church on Sun.
Friday: Took George and Cindy to be fingerprinted at their lawyer’s office. When asked why, he said he assumed it was to compare them to prints found at the crime scene. When asked if he knew who Caylee’s father was, he said D. Case thought it was Jesse Grund, but he didn’t know how D. Casey knew this. After the fingerprinting, he took D. Casey to his car, and Cindy rode with Casey while he rode with George. Said George was stressed and depressed.
Said G. & C. never told him what they thought happened to Caylee and never mentioned Zenaida Gonzales to him. D. Casey said he had checked out several Zenaida’s in the Florida area.
The only person who ever mentioned the babysitter was Zenaida. George and Cindy felt they had thrown Casey under the bus–an example of how George did this was his saying the smell from the trunk might be a body. From the way they acted, Jose Baez already knew Caitlynn, the ABC rep. The only time Hoover was ever asked to do any investigative type work was when D. Casey asked him to help him look in the woods where Caylee was later found. D. Casey called Hoover and asked him to meet him at his office. When he got there, D. Casey told him that he knew where Caylee was and she was dead. He said D. Casey told him he knew this because he had received a “tip”. He made 6-10 phone calls to someone that day, but Hoover doesn’t know to who. Hoover doesn’t believe D. Casey always tells the truth. That sometimes he exaggerated to “impress.” Said D. Casey had a blow out with Baez and stopped working for him in Sept/Oct. He would talk about Baez. Said Baez never paid D. Casey though he had expected to be paid. D. Casey, after leaving Baez, then went to work for George and Cindy and also Casey Anthony. D. Casey said Baez was trying to have an inappropriate relationship with Casey Anthony. (the licorice incident) Hoover didn’t believe that story as D. Casey had a beef with Baez. Said he felt D. Casey and Cindy exhibited inappropriate behavior. An example: Cindy said to D. Casey that he was her rock as she held D. Casey’s hand. (this was in front of Hoover and George.) Another example: Dominic and Cindy went off by themselves in Dominic’s car, and he (Hoover) drove George. Dominic and Cindy were gone a very long time and didn’t answer the phone when he tried to call. Thinks D. Casey is basically a good person and got caught up in this. He felt he was less than truthful about who he was talking to on the phone while they were searching, but didn’t believe it was Cindy or George.
The first day they were looking for the body: D. Casey directed them where to go–directly to the area where Caylee’s remains were later found. D. Casey told him to wait in the car. Hoover thinks it could “possibly” have been Lee he was talking with. One of the reasons he thinks this is, Lee’s lawyer said he had seen Hoover’s videotape BEFORE it had been released and then backtracked. Thought he knew more than he should have been able to know. Hoover said more than once he was just guessing about Lee. D. Casey wanted Hoover to be there while he searched so that it could be documented. They discussed that if they found her they would contact police and not touch anything.
He believed he had been brought along to help search for Caylee. The tip D. Casey said he had received came pretty close to where the body was. Jim Hoover told D. Casey that he was going to be videotaping. He thinks D. Casey was told the remains were not far from the road. He videotaped him walking towards where she was eventually found and then in the opposite direction. D. Casey said they were looking for 3 flat stones in a line. They searched and D. Casey found three 12′ x 12′ x 2′ pavers. They were close to the edge of the woods. (5 or 6 feet from the road) The woods are 2 0r 3 blocks long and he still went very close to where Caylee was found. The pavers were obviously laid out, not “thrown” there randomly. Morgan asked if he thought they might be out there trying to build an alibi? Hoover said no and at one point thought D. Casey was showboating. He felt D. Casey might possibly have staged the whole thing. When they left there they went to another location–the house everyone saw on the news. Started ripping bags, etc. and he wondered why D. Casey was doing that. They found three more pavers right in a line by that house. He thinks he wasn’t show boating for the defense but maybe for Cindy, in his opinion. Maybe he was trying to impress her with his ability as a private investigator. He only mentioned Zenaida Gonzales, the person that supposedly had the child, one time. Morgan asked if he thought this was odd, since they believed ZG had a live Caylee with her? Why wasn’t Zenaida Gonzales a 24 hour focus of their investigation? Hoover didn’t know. They were in the woods 20 minutes the first day, the second location, the house, another 20 minutes or so. After they left the house they went to the meet and greet where George and Cindy were selling t-shirts, profits of which he thought maybe went to Kidfinders.
2nd day: They searched the woods again. D. Casey was aware that Hoover was filming even though D. Casey later told authorities that he didn’t know he (Hoover) was filming. They found a blanket that Hoover picked up and put it back down. Went closer to the area where Caylee’s remains were found and this is where D. Casey is seen on film sticking the rod in the ground. They went back to the house and D. Casey poked the rod in the ground there. They were at both sites approximately 20 minutes each. Hoover was under the impression that the area they were in had been searched before. They never got to the exact spot where Caylee was eventually found.
They then left the site and went to the hotel where Michelle Bart was staying and had breakfast with her.
In hind sight, Hoover thought initially D. Casey was showboating for members of the family. The second day, Hoover thought differently, thinking maybe they were following up on a legitimate tip. He doesn’t believe D. Casey would do anything illegal, like try to establish an alibi for Casey Anthony.
After Caylee was found why didn’t Hoover call police and tell them about the tip in the woods? D. Casey told Hoover he had forwarded all tips to the police. Hoover was not the lead investigator so left it to D. Casey. This was the only time Hoover “knew of” that D. Casey went looking for a body. Hoover doesn’t know when D. Casey told police about the tip.
After the remains were located, Hoover asked D. Casey, don’t they know we were in that area a month ago and D. Casey said they already knew. D. Casey told Hoover Casey Anthony never talked about the case with him while she was in jail.
IMO, the most important thing that came from this interview was the pavers–especially if they can be tied back to the Anthony house and the pavers George and Cindy used under Caylee’s playhouse. If it has been established that any were missing, then I’d say that was pretty damning.
I thought the videos of Jim Hoover painted him in a better light than the transcript of the interview LE had with him. He’s much more believable on tape. Contrast that to D. Casey’s interview with LE on video.