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Yesterday’s docu-dump reveals the sad truth. It was all about Casey, not Caylee.

September 5, 2009

Casey Anthony smirkingThe most striking thing to come out of yesterday’s document dump?  IT WAS ALL ABOUT CASEY! NO ONE APPEARED TO BE LOOKING  FOR CAYLEE!  NO ONE!

Cindy was more concerned with perceived “slights” from the police towards her and her daughter than Caylee. She refused to take a polygraph to get even with police.

Cindy!  What about Caylee???  Didn’t you want to eliminate yourself  so LE could get on with the investigation?

Lee shut out anyone that dared to suggest Casey might be guilty, accusing them of coming in with “preconceived” notions of what happened. He even lied about his sister’s bizzare behavior.

Lee!  What about Caylee?  Didn’t you want every avenue exhausted in the search for your little niece?

George was the only with enough guts or concern to apparently stick his face in Casey’s face and scream, caylee sitting down“Tell me the truth! Stop lying.”  But that type of behavior prompted Cindy to say George was not living in reality like she and Lee were (yeah, you two were living in reality!) and he was having  the most difficult  time dealing with their situation.  Whaaa???? He was the only one that reacted normally—at least in the beginning.  Unfortunately, he chose to make himself scarce rather than to continue to push Casey for the truth.

George!  What about Caylee?  Did it really matter whether Casey thought you weren’t acting “like a real father” if you could have forced the truth out of her?

Who was looking for Caylee?  Certainly not her mother.  She’s an even bigger narcissist sociopath than we could ever have imagined.  Apparently her family AND her attorney were aware of her “shortcomings” and tried to coach her on how to react in public–and failed miserably.  They were so afraid that Casey might tell what really happened that they completely forgot that what really happened would reveal where Caylee was.

What I take away from the bondsmen’s interviews is that Casey Anthony was seriously damaged–not crazy, but not “right in the head” either, as my Granny would say.  Her “strangeness” could apparently be noticed within a few minutes of meeting her.   Yet, she had managed to live 22 years without any really serious mishaps–and by that I mean trouble with the law. It’s too bad Cindy or Cindy’s mother didn’t file charges against Casey forw stealing or call her out on her lies.  Even her friends say she stole and lied regularly.  Too bad one of them didn’t file charges. If they had, Cindy could have probably really gotten custody of Caylee and she might still be here now.

That Casey, with her incredible lack of judgement and lack of general understanding of “how things work”, lived as long as she did without getting into serious trouble could only be attributed to Cindy’s iron will–and fist.  Not that I’m congratulating Cindy for that–she did much more harm than good by not allowing Casey to suffer consequences–Casey might have gotten help to learn how to deal with her sociopathy if Cindy had let her fall off the cliff (so to speak) a few times.

Thanks to Tracy and Rob’s insight into the situation, I feel like we’ve gotten a glimpse of  the most dysfunctional family I have ever heard of.  Little Caylee was probably doomed from the moment she took her first breath. Maybe not to be killed, but certainly to have grown up just like her mother and grandmother.

I know there are some people  that think George and Cindy are innocent victims and that at some point Casey and Casey alone was responsible for her actions.  To an extent that is true, but I still believe, after listening to the bondsmen talk, that the whole family has some responsibility in this train wreck.  They didn’t appear to put on the brakes once.

The really sad thing here, aside from the obvious tragedy, is that Cindy and George are not alone.  So many parents today are traveling the same road the Anthonys did.  They may not all see the extreme end to their childrearing as George and Cindy did, but there is a whole generation of kids being raised that are not equiped to deal with the real world.  They feel entitled, and do not think they should be held accountable for their actions, no matter how attrocious those actions may be.  They lack empathy and conscience. They want what they want when they want it and everything and anyone else be damned.

Because of that, there are lots of Caylee’s and Haleigh’s out there suffering the consequences of someone else’s acts, and their numbers appear to be on the rise.  These little ones’ are becoming part of a throw-away generation whose parents have so little regard for anyone other than themselves that they lash out at or simply get rid of their kids (or someone else’s kid) when they get in the way. You can’t go a day anymore without hearing about another child being abused, maimed or killed.  And all the abusers and murderers seem to have someone else to blame for their vile actions.

So here’s my question if anyone wants to answer it. If  it’s not the adult children’s fault, and it’s not the adult children’s parents’ fault for not teaching them right from wrong,  then whose fault is it?  Mine?  Yours?  Whose?

55 Comments leave one →
  1. mikka permalink
    September 5, 2009 11:38 am

    its the sad,sad truth.but i am not wondering one day something happens with caylee.the red flaggs was all over!

  2. Id'claire permalink
    September 5, 2009 1:38 pm

    Mystery, very well put!!

    As to your question of guilt or fault: Lyons will surely be one to answer that…inher own perspective. The State will have it’s own answer. And then the jury.

  3. niecey456 permalink
    September 5, 2009 2:40 pm

    Excellent Post Mystery!!! It’s way past time for folks in this world to take responsibility for their own actions. There is as you say a whole new generation with that sense of entitlement and it’s scary! There are far more walking around that no one knows anything about. I’m afraid the numbers are staggering. I just don’t understand it. I understand how it’s created, but I don’t understand a person going through life with no regard for others. It’s heartbreaking. I really hope that society is learning something, as I feel there is much to be learned in these cases. But I fear that not enough care to fix it. God Help Us.

    On a lighter note, I can’t get Rob Dick’s video to work past the first minute or so. I can’t find another copy anywhere but Channel 9. How did you get it to work???
    I noticed news 13’s slide show worked yesterday most of the day, and then quit working last night, and I had to change my link to Channel 9’s. I noticed the media stunk on this one yesterday. JMO.

  4. K.B. permalink
    September 5, 2009 2:42 pm

    I was shocked to hear Cindy say that K.C. was never given the chance to answer their questions. She was given every opportunity in the world to tell them the truth. Melich told her when they were at Universal exactly what was going to happen, if she didn’t start telling them the truth but, she chose to continue to lie. Det. Wells sat their and continued to listen to her B.S. about Z.F.G. That is when she was told the snowball was going to hit the bottom of the hill and it looks like it has hit the bottom. Cindy really makes me sick! She wants to place the blame everywhere and everyone but where it belongs.( K.C. ) We all need to make a stand and be a voice for Caylee. Visit Justice for Caylee!

  5. September 5, 2009 2:49 pm

    Excellant insight *Mystery

    Hmmmm….who to blame. I think Casey was a “bad seed” from very early on, and when she reached adulthood, it just bacame worse. She ruled that household for sure. Seemed like the whole family walked on eggshells around this H. S. drop out, unemployed thief and liar. I blame her parents for not taking her to a head Dr., and perhaps force them take a deep look into why she has has been given all the control in the household. I’m sure she used Caylee as a bargaining tool to manipulate her Mother. She is pure evil.

  6. Id'claire permalink
    September 5, 2009 3:20 pm

    So, Mystery…did the doc drop meet expectations?

    Did what the Padilla crew reveal pose such a threat to Baez as to cause such a commotion? Were they nails in Casey’s coffin or do you think they’ll even make the stand?

    Fast forwarding a few months….what do you think George and Cindy’s reaction will be to the verdict?

  7. paula permalink
    September 5, 2009 3:47 pm

    I wonder if Casey is the way she is because of George’s and Cindy’s parenting or are they off the wall because of the difficulty of raising her. Some pictures of Caylee look so sad and so forlorn – I always hope it’s just my imagination. Like everyone else, I always hope the “doc dump” will be beneficial for the prosecution and these interviews certainly were but it leaves you with such a sad, sad feeling. That poor baby!

  8. BEES KNEES permalink
    September 5, 2009 5:04 pm

    Such a well-written post Mystery! Thank you.

  9. Suzie Jane permalink
    September 5, 2009 6:58 pm

    No ones fault but Casey’s. OMG tons of kids survive in spite of the worst parenting in the world and do just fine. She is an adult who needs to be held responsible for her devious actions. She is a murder plain and simple. Hang her pompous ass and hang it high. Caylee we love you.

  10. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 5, 2009 7:30 pm

    mikka–yes, there were red flags everywhere. It was just a matter of time.

    Id’claireLyon will surely have a lot to say–and hopefully the prosecution will be able to refute most of it.

  11. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 5, 2009 7:39 pm


    heartbreaking is right, and I don’t understand either. But, then, I was raised to know the difference between right and wrong, to respect other people’s property, to always look at things through the other guy’s eyes, and to lend a hand to those that needed it. When I veered off that straight and narrow path, my parents firmly planted my feet back on the pavement. It was hard work for them, I’m sure. It was hard work for me and my husband, too, as we raised our boys. Raising kids is a full-time job. That reality seems to come as a shock to a lot of parents.

    My link to Rob Dick on 9 is working fine but I don’t know why! Yesterday, it took a very long time to get it to work–I kept re-linking and it finally held.
    Thanks for letting me know about the slide-show. I’ll go change it.

  12. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 5, 2009 7:43 pm


    Some of the excuses Cindy makes for Casey are so pathetic I almost feel sorry for her! I honestly have to take breaks when I listen to her go on and on and on in tapes of her. I imagine, from Tracy’s description of Casey, her conversations are just as tiring.

  13. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 5, 2009 7:56 pm

    diana–I think you are right. Casey was a bad seed. Could her parents have helped by taking her to doctor? I don’t know, and obviously I’m no doctor, but I think an early diagnosis could have made a difference in all their lives.

    Id’claire I do think this doc-dump was worthwhile. The bondsmen revealed a glimpse of what was going on in that house, and gave insight into Casey Anthony’s behavior. If Tracy and Rob’s testimony is allowed in court it could be very damaging to the defense. The woman barely acknowledged her missing daughter. She did not appear distraught or upset. If Judge Strickland allowed that their testimony was not privileged, I think there’s a very good chance they could end up on the stand. Rob and Tracy anyway–they have not sought the publicity that Leonard has.

    If George and Cindy remain true to form they will be unable to accept any verdict other than not guilty. JMO

  14. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 5, 2009 8:01 pm

    paula–that’s a very good question. I wonder!

    I don’t think it’s your imagination that Caylee looked so sad and forlorn. I think she did, too.


    Suzy Jane I agree that Casey needs to now be held accountable and pay to the full extent of the law for what she’s done.

  15. Hilde permalink
    September 5, 2009 8:05 pm

    very well said mystery and oh so true.
    Yes, I still keep up on Your post and niecey’s, I just don’t have much to say anymore right now.
    I feel like I have already said everything there is to say at least for the time being. At the same time I do keep track of this Case and will stay informed.
    It is important to me like to everyone here that Justice will be served.

  16. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 5, 2009 8:30 pm

    I’m glad you do still hang out, Hilde, and your comments are always well thought out, insightful, and offer a unique perspective. And of course, you KNOW I appreciate your recipes! We had the beef roll-ups again last week! I hope you post some more–how bout’ some desserts????

  17. Sophie permalink
    September 5, 2009 11:05 pm

    Whether the Anthony’s let Casey get away with everything or not…and you know they did………….

    They were FULLY aware that she was in no position to be able to decently parent a child.

    And they encouraged/pushed/forced (whatever you want to call it) Casey to keep the baby she should have given up. All Caylee was is a doll for them to play with. A replacement Casey Baby. Not a real person who needed unconditional love, care and guidance.

    I do hold the grandparents culpable in this situation. They knew that Casey couldn’t/wouldn’t take care of herself. They knew she was sociopathic. That she was a liar, manipulator and thief.

    What kind of mother is someone like this supposed to make?

    A rotten one. One who puts herself first and always has.

    They wanted to leave a little helpless baby with the person they knew damned well their daughter was?

    Come on. They are just as guilty in their own way. You don’t shove a baby on someone like Casey and expect her to be mother of the year. They should have expected her to be at the very least, a neglectful parent.

    As it turns out, she was the very worst.

    You are right, Sophie. What kind of parent did anyone really expect Casey to be considering her history. I’m sure they didn’t expect her to kill her own daughter, but they had to have been worried about Caylee when she was alone with Casey–At least I would have been.

  18. Jill from Western Australia permalink
    September 6, 2009 3:33 am

    Excellent article Mystery…thanks 😆

    Currently I have only listened to Roy Kronk’s call to HIS dispatch, watched the soundless poor video skills of Jim Hoover taping what I felt to be a “staged search” by Dom Casey looking for a needle in a haystack. What we all would give to know who he was talking to on his phone. :mrgreen:

    Sat through over an hour of Tracy…despite her annoying nervous laugh she certainly did give us all a good insite as to how extremely self-centered KC really is.

    Pacing myself…will watch Rob Dick then Lenny either today or tomorrow. May put Spindy’s on hold for a while 😳

    Mystery you eloquently explained exactly my feelings of how NO-ONE except the Padilla team + LE seemed to be concerned for Caylee. 😥

    As to who’s fault…Id’claire explained exactly what the jury will hear. As to my own opinion I feel that Cindy failed both as a mother and grandmother. If I had been in her shoes I would NOT have allowed KC to use MY car until she not only paid all costs for the vehicle but also paid a weekly amount of “board.” Cindy knew full well that KC didn’t have a job but I suspect she took the easy way out and chose to ignore it…just like she did with all her stealing.

    I can understand Cindy’s feelings of guilt BUT she chose to blame George and their shaky relationship initially before lashing out at anyone and everyone who was trying to help them. Now that she has alienated almost everyone she only wants to make money from the death of this beautiful little girl. POOR CHOICE CINDY!!!! {You missed out on the loving support of those who you call FLB’s {Fat lazy bloggers.}

    Hugs to all my friends from over the pond ♥♥♥

    Very well put, Jill. What was going on in that house and with that family after Caylee was gone is just something I will never understand. The sense of urgency in the search for that little girl wasn’t there. She was a distant second to their concern for Casey. The only thing that makes sense to me is that they already knew what happened to Caylee and had already reconciled themselves to the fact.

  19. Id'claire permalink
    September 6, 2009 4:55 am

    Casey was always the doting mother…she was just that good at deception…family conflicts and partying just got in the way, more and more…

    She may have been able to fool her friends with her doting mother act, but I seriously doubt she fooled her family.

  20. ostella permalink
    September 6, 2009 1:03 pm

    Sophie-couldnt agree more!

    IMO, they’re ALL SICK. Not insane, not crazy. SICK. They understand the difference between right and wrong, but they just don’t care. They are the living breathing embodiment of NARCISSISM and SOCIOPATHY. Simple as that. They’re more selfish than could possibly be imagined. They’re a malignant narcissistic tumor on society. Period.

    well, Ostella, I don’t think I could add one thing to your statement! lol

  21. artgal permalink
    September 6, 2009 3:19 pm

    This is a really excellent post – I think we should all send this to the anthonys foundation – which is
    They need to read this,self reflection is certainly not their strong suit. Cindys interview with Commander Irwin was to me appalling, which is what Cindy called Yuri’s interview of Casey. She never talked about
    Caylee – I believe she suspected strongly that Caylee was dead and she
    and Lee set about going into attack mode to protect Casey. Shameful and disgusting tactics. Lee saying he didnt want anyone to come in with preconceived notions – thats a laugh. What other notions could you possibly have about a lying 22 year old who wont tell you where her toddler is. I dont understand George changing so much – Cindy just has him under her thumb -Id like to see the whole rotten lot of them thrown into the jail for lying and obstruction.

    thanks, artgal. And, I agree with everything you said. I just don’t understand how, whether they suspected or knew Caylee was dead or not, how they could have then proceeded to pull out all the stops in trying to get their sorry excuse for a daughter off scott free. Love her all you want. Support her all you want. Bake her brownies and take them to the jail. But make sure she pays for what she’s done.

  22. Id'claire permalink
    September 6, 2009 4:27 pm

    I think the Anthonys do suffer/have suffered/will continue to suffer. Their lives will never be the same and in a matter of months their daughter/sister will be put away for ever.

    I’m not sure what to tell those who are not satisfied with the Anthonys’ suffering and want them to suffer more than all of this because of their own mess.

    I know that I personally would like the Anthonys to have a different attitude, demeanor, response, and stance than what they’ve had. Amidst one of their media presentations, it would be nice if they’d take an opportunity to make a strong statement in support of justice for Caylee and recognition and condemnation of their daughter’s actions. They could still love her, while condemning her. Would they suffer less if they openly did this?

    But they won’t take this stance because of their pride or perhaps desperation to keep Casey from the needle.

    Yet, in all this, they suffer. We can leave them alone in their suffering. We aren’t in position to shake them about the shoulders or put them in jail.

    Id’claire, I have no doubt that all the Anthonys have and are suffering. A lot of their pain is being brought on themselves.

  23. OneOp permalink
    September 6, 2009 4:55 pm

    I just wonder if they did come before the media and express about Caylee and Casey, even then would that help
    any of us to have any different attitude toward them, or would it only satisfy our desire to hear and see them do it.
    It seems doubtful that it actually would bring change in our perspective of them. May even be more negative because in any way they did it, it surely would not please us individually. Really, this should have happened in early days, now, in my estimation would be late coming and nothing would be received in any positive
    light. Some who believe that not speaking of the negative in their lives is showing more thrust in God to bring about what they would like to see. Caylee, well, for sure, this baby is not coming back to them, but possibly, Casey not
    get the DP. Would it be possible they have been pastorily advised to just trust God in everything. That no matter
    what, HE will take care of everything. His purpose would not be to please us as an audience, but to only bring about resolution to the Anthony’s in their beliefs. We can not discuss the religious beliefs of the Anthony’s
    but I just wonder about some of it. I remember hearing one say to another, “I always pray for patience” the other
    person replied “Oh, I never pray for patience, because then I may receive something to have to be patience about”
    One of the weirdest remarks I ever heard, but to each his own, when it comes to faith.

    I don’t want to see the Anthonys do anything other than be truthful with LE and stop trying to hide the truth whatever that may be. Whether Casey is guilty or not, let the truth prevail. Stop tampering with it, twisting it, flat out changing it. I can’t speak for anyone else, but that’s the only thing I’m interested in George and Cindy doing.

  24. Id'claire permalink
    September 6, 2009 5:47 pm

    OneOp–are you saying haters will be haters will be haters…no matter what, when it comes to the Anthonys?

    I’m sure that they were advised to trust in God. They’ve spoken of building their faith and turning more to the church.

    You’re right that they don’t have to answer to us or our perception of them. There’s no way they would win out. Like you said, they may make some happy if they did this or that, but another crowd would voice other disparaging comments.

    But overall, I would think (and I may be wrong) that turning to God and trusting in Him would necessarily require facing the truth, supporting the truth, cooperating in demeanor and humility towards the authority of the courtroom. And this truth would show their faith…that God will take care of everything, DP or no DP.

    perfectly said, Id’claire!

  25. OneOp permalink
    September 6, 2009 6:38 pm

    Truly their demeanor toward investigation could be much better overall. I just mean for them
    to publicly and verbally state Casey’s guilt really will not change the facts. No doubt if unbearable
    for them to even admit to themselves, no doubt more unbearable to admit to others.

    Let them not speak publicly AT ALL. Just cooperate with LE. The truth will prevail.

  26. Sophie permalink
    September 6, 2009 7:09 pm

    I don’t hate any of them. I have my opinions, and I doubt that anything the Anthony’s do at this point will change how I feel about them.

    We all deserve forgiveness or a second chance, if we are truly sorry for something, no matter how small or great the transgression.

    I have not been wounded by any of these people. I wouldn’t want to walk a step in their shoes. Nobody should have to go through this.

    But it’s common sense: when you act hateful, you receive hate.

    It’s called, what goes around, comes around. If this family had shown just a little graciousness towards those who tried to help them, it’d have gone a long way in public support for them.

    I don’t feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for Caylee. And I feel sorry for Lee’s child. Because that’s one living person in this family that will carry all this garbage as lifelong baggage…the negative public reputations that daddy, auntie Casey, grandpa and grandma have made for themselves.

    And this child’s existence will forever be overshadowed by a two persons never known: cousin and aunt. God help this new baby. I feel so sorry for any child born into this mess.

    Good points!
    I had heard a rumor that Lee was going to have a baby. I wonder if it’s really true? I agree and hope that someone will be watching out for this child.

  27. Id'claire permalink
    September 6, 2009 7:52 pm

    Sophie, you are so right. Public opinion would be very different if early on the Anthonys were more gracious.

    But, then again, things would also be very different if that anonymous pizza had cyanide in it.

    Does Lee have a child? I heard rumors…

    I don’t think the Anthony garbage will necessarily be lifelong baggage for the new baby. People move on. This one can have a fresh life, full of love.

    Id’claire. I had heard that rumor, too. Wish I knew if it was true. I agree with you. Time will pass as Casey hopefully rots in jail, and 10 years down the road, no one will be giving her a second thought. This baby has every chance of living a full happy life.

  28. ostella permalink
    September 7, 2009 10:30 am

    Hate requires a lot of energy that I would never dream of investing in these people. It implies passion, and i don’t wanna give them that. They’re a bunch of pathetic overgrown teenagers with criminal tendencies and delusions of grandeur. They consistently prove they are their own worst enemies, as well as their own punchlines. I definitely dislike them, and feel they represent some of the worst possible qualities in humanity. But HATE? No. If anything, I’m “Anthony Aware”….

    I agree, ostella. “Hate” is too strong a word. “Actively dislike” is more like it.

  29. OneOp permalink
    September 7, 2009 12:14 pm

    There was some comment somewhere that Lee’s girl was pregnant
    but may have been hearsay, not yet read that a child had been born.
    If there is, I would be interested in what name was chosen. If it
    had anything relating to a C or M. Anthony. For a fresh start
    seems it best not to have.

  30. mikka permalink
    September 7, 2009 4:43 pm

    i dont understand does cindy and george going on with her lies.for them its its all about casey,its no more for the VICTIM CAYLEE!!I gave a hope a long time ago does she want justice for caylee!!the anthonys will get a wake up call,when casey is locked up for good!!

    Yes, mikka, I imagine reality will hit Cindy like a ton of bricks when Casey is behind bars for good.

  31. pak31 permalink
    September 7, 2009 5:08 pm

    There is an old saying that goes, “actions speak louder than words”. I feel that this applies so much to this situation. The Anthonys, George, Cindy and Lee, have all shown us that. After a long time to think about what has happened, I feel that it’s fine for them to love Casey, they are entitled to that. BUT, Caylee was a part of them too and for them to not show any effort on her part tells me they all know the truth. My own dad once told me(and I was the good kid of the family), that he loves me dearly and would do anything for me but if anything ever happened to his grandkids(my children) he go to the end of the earth for them, he’d die for them. He would do that for me too but what he said makes sense.Grandparents who love their grandchild would or should not tolerate what Casey has gotten away with, they should have put Caylee above her from day one and they just have not done that. That speaks volumes.

    Hi Pak, nice to see you! I agree. They can love their daughter and still protect their grandchild. They didn’t do that, and that does speak volumes.

  32. OneOp permalink
    September 7, 2009 5:46 pm

    Anthonys are broadly viewed as Pak says. The actions prior to Caylee being found dead may have been a deterant in finding her blessed body. Now? I don’t quite understand what is expected from Cindy, George and Lee because Casey if jailed and known to be the killer and has the DP on board. Can someone explain to me what these people are to do NOW to make satiffy public opinion change. I can not really think of anything. They must wait for the trial and deal with the verdict, what else at this point? We all know they are not seen in good favor, but how can they (for our benefit) do anything to help Caylee, except mourn her privately and painfully. The judicial system is working on all the facts, so even if Cindy, George, and Lee make a statement to the press, that they believe Casey if guilty of killing Caylee, what exactly does that do to hurry anything along. Maybe they need a “list” published as to what would satisfy all of us to hear and see, that we would call “Justice For Caylee” Not knocking anyone’s thoughts here. This is just some of mine.

    OneOp–Again, I don’t think the Anthonys need to or should do anything to appease the “public”. That’s the problem. They have had a taste of the limelight and they want to be in it. The public has nothing to do with anything. The Anthonys owe no one but Caylee. They owe it to her to NOT tamper with the truth whatever that truth might be. JMO

  33. OneOp permalink
    September 7, 2009 5:50 pm

    Also, I can not figure what I am doing that my spacing is not
    closing up. ?????? Mystery

    That spacing was weird, OneOp! I fixed it for you.

  34. Laura permalink
    September 7, 2009 6:21 pm

    What I took from the doc dump is Lee is up to his eyebrows in this mess. I hope he found the truth when he testified recently. I also do not think the Anthony’s would have ever tried to take Caylee away from Casey. That would mean telling friends and family their daughter wasn’t a good mother. I think they have enabled this little brat so long and now they are covering for her because Casey does not get punished by NO ONE! I am saddened by this case beyond words. Casey was a happy well adjusted healthy child and the only thing she really got in life was love. Not really support and no one to trust, no one is trying to protect her. They have to protect the one who killed her. I had hope for George, and maybe he will come around although I don’t think so. He has to save his daughter or God help him. He is proven time and again under oath where his priorities lay. I think the state has more then enough and I do not think Casey has a thing wrong with her this is a clear case of not having boundaries as a child. I do not blame her parents for the murder I blame them for Casey thinking she can do whatever with no punishment! By the way ladies HELLO!!

    Hi Laura! I think Lee is stuck in the muck, too. I agree with you. Casey is responsible for Caylee’s death–Cindy and George are responsible for Casey thinking she could get away with it. They got her out of every other thing she ever did, why would she think any differently?

  35. Laura permalink
    September 7, 2009 6:22 pm

    Sorry that should have been Caylee only got love and no one to trust!!!

  36. Id'claire permalink
    September 7, 2009 6:50 pm

    The Anthonys are a problem, but they can be set aside. There is nothing they can do to stop the proceedings or change the outcome. Everything is up to the trial now, like OneOp says.

    The recent doc dump, if anything, is an assurance that there is plenty going against Casey and justice will be served.

    Are there people unconvinced of this? Are there those who distrust the court system and worry about what Baez and team will pull?

    Why is there so much angst and upheaval still in this strong case against Casey?

  37. johninflorida permalink
    September 7, 2009 7:37 pm

    In order to answer your question I need to get my big foot in my mouth, lets see if I can do it.

    We are all responsible for our own actions without a doubt. However we are also a product of our environment meaning how we have been bought up. Looking at how Cindy acts in open public, (I can just imagine how it is in private) and looking back in time one might see how this all began.

    Every kid starts to lie about things and it is usually the parents who teach them not to. My guess is that this never happened in this family. Looking at the history of George and Cindy and the problems they had, they probably never told each other the truth. It was posted by George’s ex-wife’s sister that George got divorced because he lied so much. Maybe true, maybe not!

    So Casey had the chance to start at a young age and she apparently did. You would think they would catch it in school and maybe they did but nothing was done. Maybe they contacted Casey’s parents and nothing was still done. As Casey grew older her friends knew she lied about everything but what could they do? I have friends who lie and I have let them know that I realize they are lying to me. Most are no longer my friends. Casey must have gone through that.

    I know people who live in nice neighborhoods and are complete nut cases. Should I report them? To who or is it to whom? I would love to but is that my responsibility? Is it interfering? Well I’m not sure so if those people are a danger to anyone they will slip through the cracks like it appears Casey did until something happens.

    We all have the responsibility to call certain agencies if we see a child being abused or some pervert in a park or public place and most of us would do that. But how does one report a dysfunctional family? As far as I know it is not illegal to be dysfunctional and how would we measure a degree of it.

    The cracks are there for people to fall into, they will escape detection until some very tragic event happens and then it is to late. It is this way and will always be this way. The more we make people aware of it the more people are born into it and it is sad to say, may be a losing battle.

    It would be a fun challenge to try and find news storied where tragedies were adverted because someone spoke up or did something to stop it from happening other than the police arresting just before they killed someone or robbed a bank. There have been a few in the news lately but not enough.

  38. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 7, 2009 7:38 pm

    Hi everyone. Been out of pocket the last couple of days. I answered your comments within the comment boxes.

  39. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 7, 2009 7:41 pm

    Id’claire–The evidence we’ve seen so far is mostly circumstantial. Most murder cases are won on circumstantial evidence and I have no doubt this one will be too.

  40. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 7, 2009 7:49 pm

    Hi John–Great to see you.

    I agree with you 100% and I would bet you’re not to far off the mark where the Anthony family is concerned. Lotsa lotsa lotsa people just like the Anthony family. More and more and more Casey’s are making headlines. Fewer and fewer people willing to get involved when they see something wrong. And sadly, many more tragedies than happy endings. There aren’t many heroes out there anymore.

  41. mikka permalink
    September 7, 2009 8:11 pm

    john,good to see you!!
    All day follow me the words ,what cindy mother was saying,
    ” casey hate cindy more,than she loved caylee”.thats the sad truth,caylee paid a high price,because casey want all the attention.cindy let her grow her up like this what she is ,a selfish brat!

  42. johninflorida permalink
    September 7, 2009 8:21 pm

    Hi mikka. Cindy/Casey, one in the same.

  43. mikka permalink
    September 7, 2009 9:38 pm

    john i agree with you.when you hear cindy ,she say casey steal only ONES time,casey lie only ONES time.

  44. OneOp permalink
    September 8, 2009 1:25 am

    Appreciate how easy it is to read your posts and comments.
    Very bright and clear print in here. Easy on poor eyesight!

  45. Jill from Western Australia permalink
    September 8, 2009 2:01 am

    Hello my l♥velies…well written post John…I totally agree.

    Unless we know people personally we have a tendency to judge them by their initial actions and words. Sadly the Anthony’s have done little or nothing to help the plight of KC. Instead they have managed {by THEIR OWN ACTIONS & WORDS} to alienate most who only see them when in front of the media for the past year.

    I must confess that it would take a lot of convincing by them for me to change my current views.

    It is not our fault that my views are those of many…if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck then after over a year I believe its a duck.

    We have another year before the murder trial…we will all watch the demeanor of the Anthony family during this time. It is up to THEM as to how they will be perceived.

    Hugs ♥♥♥

  46. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 8, 2009 8:52 am

    Thanks, OneOp–I like the large comment area on this particular theme as well.

  47. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 8, 2009 8:54 am

    Very good, Jill. They are responsible for their public persona in the first place. They are the ones that behave as if they were born into royalty and are answerable to no one. I still say what we think of them doesn’t matter one twit. What matters is what they do to bring justice to Caylee no matter who that might implicate. As far as I can tell, they aren’t doing a damn thing to help make that happen.

  48. ostella permalink
    September 8, 2009 10:07 am

    Check it out:

    Just days after arguing that Caseys murder trial needs ALL their attention, so much that the check fraud trial should be postponed/dismissed so they can REALLY focus on prepping for the murder case…..Macaloser takes on another high profile client…. I guess they learned to multitask really quick….

  49. Id'claire permalink
    September 8, 2009 10:16 am

    Ostella, Thanks for keeping us informed!! This is turning into a Shakespeare comedy!

  50. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 8, 2009 11:37 am

    Hi ostella–Yes, I read that this morning. Thanks for the link.

    Id’claire–It’s more like a three ring circus than a Shakespearean comedy! LOL

  51. OneOp permalink
    September 8, 2009 1:11 pm

    This particular picture of Casey you have. I have never seen before, kinda gives me the chills
    There is just something so obviously disturbing in it…………………. Then there is sweet Caylee,
    sweet precious Caylee picture.

  52. itsamysterytome permalink*
    September 8, 2009 6:07 pm


    It’s diabolical isn’t it!

  53. OneOp permalink
    September 8, 2009 7:25 pm

    Double diabolical, Casey / Nanny

  54. They all knew permalink
    September 21, 2009 7:44 am

    Many years ago I can remember my daughter coming home from 2nd grade and telling my husband and I that she didn’t have to listen to us. I can remember that clear as day! We asked her where she heard this and she said my teacher said to us that we didnt have to listen to you, that I had my own rights and could do what i wanted. This was about 20 yrs ago! We were appalled to say the least. There is a major problem in this country and no, it’s not the parents fault all the time but society in general. What gave that teacher the right to say that to my daughter’s class? This is showing pure disrespect to us as parents and it has been going on ever since in different ways. Just look at some of our professors nowadays spewing their liberal views on our kids~ I say it’s the responsibility of the parents, teachers, public figures to set a good examples. We were lucky as we stuck to our guns and did what we needed to do with our children however it wasnt without major battles with school districts, college professors the whole nine yards. Just look at what is going on in this country, public figures and our teachers etc disrespecting a President of the United States in time of War, teaching our kids to do the same! What does that say? This is what our children have to deal with. There is a conflict of interest between teachers/parents etc… Just making an example. Our children look up to teachers etc and they are considered roll models. I can see why our children grow up confused especially in today’s society. Where is the respect from such roll models?? Those same roll models who spew to our children not to listen to us etc are now having to deal with the aftermath! Just look at all the violence in schools, kids bringing guns into school shooting up those same liberal teachers who were teaching our kids not to respect authority figures! Not only that. Just how many kids were put on drugs to calm them just so the teachers could have it easier. The aftermath of that years later is a major problem also. How is a kid suppose to learn to overcome his own faults without being drugged. I can name 3 neighbors kids who were put on drugs as small children just because they fell behind in reading and had a little bit of a problem focusing! The answer was drugs, not giving more help , but to drug them and make the teachers work easier… You cannot excuse the fact that there are parents that shouldn’t be parents however it’s up to the system to do its job to weed those out and act accordingly. The system is the problem. Just look at the Haleigh case. Why was that child even living in such circumstances??

    It takes a village! I do agree with that statement however it begins at home.

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