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Casey Anthony’s defense wants all TES records. They say they’ve found 2 TES volunteers claiming Caylee’s body wasn’t there in Sept. 08

November 23, 2009

A while back, Judge Strickland ordered Tim Miller to turn over the name of 32 volunteers who searched near the wood’s where Caylee was found.  Miller said no volunteers searched the exact area where her body was discovered. The defense team has filed a motion demanding that Tim Miller now release all his records concerning the Caylee Anthony search.

Motion to modify the court’s order for TES documents LINK

They say  they’ve located two additional volunteers whose names weren’t on Tim Miller’s list.  The defense says these two TES volunteers claim Caylee’s body was not in the woods when they searched the area in September, 2008.  If this can be proven, it supports Casey’s defense team’s claim that a stranger dumped Caylee’s body where it was found while Casey was in jail.

Joe Jordan claims he searched the area on Sept. 1, 2008 with five or six other people.  One of those people was a dog handler named Danny Ibison and there was another dog handler from the Panama City Sheriff’s Office.

Laura Buchanan, New Jersey, has submitted a sworn statement saying:

“On Sept. 3, 2008 … I personally searched near the privacy fence and worked my way towards, and then the spot, where the body was found.I did not notice anything unusual. I did not notice a strange smell. I noticed no buzzards, nor unusual animal or insect activity.It is my opinion that the remains of Caylee Anthony were not there during the time of our search.”

Those two of course aren’t the only former TES volunteers to say Caylee’s body wasn’t there in September.  Joy Wray put her two cents in saying she was questioned by detectives Monday.  She claims to have information on her computer that proves Casey’s innocence……

WESH video about the TES witnesses

If Caylee was placed in the wood’s in June, (and the entomology reports verify that) her body would have quickly skeletonized in the hot Florida sun. There would have been no smell, no buzzards, no unusual animal or insect activity by September.

It’s also my understanding that the area in question was under water or boggy when Miller’s search teams were in the area.  So, did these two walk on water? And if they were on a search team, why aren’t their team mates coming forward to make similar claims?   Why just these two?  Do we know if Danny Ibison, the dog handler has been found?

My guess is that the defense had these people’s statements before they asked for  TES volunteer records.  They asked for them in hopes of  verifying  Jordan’s and Buchanan’s statements.  When they didn’t show up among the 32  Miller gave them, they decided to  try again to get the full list of volunteers to check their names against.

And I’m not even going to comment on the infamous Joy Wray.

92 Comments leave one →
  1. mikka permalink
    November 23, 2009 9:11 pm

    hi isamystery,nice you are back!
    it was all under water from end of august till end of november,thats what the neighbours say,this case let my head spinn! 🙄

  2. ostella permalink
    November 23, 2009 9:24 pm


  3. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 23, 2009 9:49 pm

    Hey mikka!

    That’s what I thought! Thanks!

  4. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 23, 2009 9:50 pm


    You took the word right out of my mouth!

  5. November 23, 2009 9:51 pm

    I’ll put my $0.02 worth in, I was there on Sept 6th and TES’s people were there also. Neither I nor them could get there because of water. None of us had boots and we all just looked around the road at the end of the street. I walked inside a chain link fence as far as I could go because of water and walking west toward the woods and that was it. No one was closer than maybe 300 feet of finding her. I can’t imagine how those people got there. Did they have boots and machetes.

    TES had an ATV and it could not go into the thick woods. They did not have anything but walking sticks.

  6. liz permalink
    November 23, 2009 9:59 pm

    Well, considering the area was under water, how did Roy Kronk get near Caylee’s body

  7. November 23, 2009 9:59 pm

    He was there months later.

  8. November 23, 2009 10:00 pm

    Oh, and he could not get there at first because of water.

  9. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 23, 2009 10:11 pm

    Hi john–

    Well, that says it all doesn’t it? You were there and you just backed up what Tim Miller and others said. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Are these legitimate witnesses who can bring forth others to corroborate their stories? Or is it just more chit thrown against the wall.

  10. November 23, 2009 10:38 pm

    The first question I would ask them would be, “what were you wearing on the day you searched and what equipment did you have with you.”

    From what I recall in looking over at fields and around ponds where people were searching the people searching had nothing but bottled water with them and some walking sticks. It was as if you walked out of your house and started to look for a lost ring in a shrub bed. You walk and stare, walk and stare, that’s it.

    On another note that everyone is forgetting, on that date we all were looking for a buried body, that’s what we were told on the news to look for.

  11. November 23, 2009 10:42 pm

    hello to everyone bozo does not need to go to far with them because dont forget dominic casey he was the last one at that area and on the phone while ripping up bags that were there from before.who ever that was he was talking to on his cell was a family member that was directing him to go where the pavers were at and he did ,dont forget that hoover also recorded the area so both dominic and hoover went together right?that alone puts casey at the woods where she put her.the defense is getting all excited but dont they look stupid because even if they want to say that someone was there and no body of course not because it was just bones at that can they say no body big mistake.the bones not the body.when dominic went yes there was just a bag but he had to poke the bags to know where it was there was no body except the bag of bones.stupid lion and bozo the clown.he is the worst dum ass of a lawyer he should go back to shcool for more he is on shows then he will not answer questions how stupid are you should go find a job doing other things.if this bitch gets out there is just another killer on the street.l hope the state is paying attention on all this shit that bozo has up his sleeve.good day for now will get back on here tomorrow.annie.

  12. mikka permalink
    November 23, 2009 11:31 pm

    cma is SCARED thats what lyons and baden tonight on the show say,hahah

    How is Casey Anthony doing knowing that her life is on the line?

    “She’s scared. Wouldn’t you be scared?” defense attorney Andrea Lyon told WKMG-Channel 6’s Tony Pipitone. “She sad. She’s grief-stricken. And she’s terrified.”

    WKMG offered a well-promoted interview with Lyon and fellow defense attorney Linda Kenney Baden. Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

    The CBS affiliate started its 11 p.m. newscast with the interview, then saved the rest of it for 10 minutes later in the telecast. The better to keep viewers watching during sweeps month. The entire 18-minute interview can be seen at the station’s Web site.

    Pipitone, one of the market’s best reporters, pressed the attorneys on several points that fascinate people who have been following the case. He asked if the attorneys were being paid by anything but publicity because their client has no money.

    “We don’t think publicity is payment,” Baden said. “All of us are not in this case for publicity.”

    Lyon said the defense team is “doing our best to see to it that she gets a fair trial.”

    Pipitone asked: Would Anthony be open to a plea deal? Lyon said they couldn’t discuss the issue, because it would be inappropriate.

    In an interview last month with CBS’ “48 Hours Mystery,” defense attorneys pointed to a stranger’s being involved in the crime. They raised the issue based on mystery DNA that was found on duct tape with Caylee’s remains. Pipitone confronted the attorneys with the possibility that the DNA could have come from an FBI lab technician. Baden played down that possibility, yet Pipitone cited an e-mail that shows the lab tech cannot be ruled out as the source of the DNA.

    Pipitone asked if there’s any evidence that meter reader Roy Kronk had any contact with Caylee Anthony when she was alive. The defense last week raised the idea that Kronk, who found the child’s remains, should be considered a suspect in her death.

    “The evidence that we have is circumstantial in nature,” Lyon said. “The evidence that the prosecution has against this young woman, who they’re asking the state of Florida to kill, is entirely circumstantial.”

  13. mikka permalink
    November 23, 2009 11:33 pm

    thats the rest good night 😉

    Pipitone’s take on that: “The unspoken answer is no.”

    Baden pounced on Pipitone’s question about whether the defense is trying to divert attention from Anthony. “It’s an attempt to do the state’s job for them,” Baden said. “They pointed the finger at this poor young girl who did something very, very, very stupid in terms of not reporting her child missing.”

    Baden also explained why the defense had given an interview to Pipitone: “The local media, with the exception of some of the reporting that we’ve seen from you Tony, and that’s why we’re here, has taken everything they’ve seen at face value or the leaks they saw early on and publicized them improperly against our client.”

    So the attorneys threw a bouquet in playing press critic. I won’t disagree. Pipitone has deepened the public’s understanding of this long-running saga with his knowledge, persistence and reporting. WKMG is lucky to have him.

  14. mikka permalink
    November 23, 2009 11:42 pm

    john,hi good too see you!you are a good prosecution witness,you thought about this?? 😆

  15. mikka permalink
    November 23, 2009 11:59 pm

    here is the video from the interview

  16. mikka permalink
    November 24, 2009 12:10 am

    from orlando news,she must check kronks cars!

    They also conceded they have no evidence of human decomposition in any of Kronk’s vehicles, unlike what the state claims its experts will say was found in the trunk of Casey Anthony’s car

  17. November 24, 2009 7:19 am

    I wish someone would have asked Lyons if someone else did this, and her client is so innocent, then why would LE ask for the death penalty? Since they have (defense) proof of her innocence that will be brought out at trial then why worry and go on any and all talk shows who will give them airtime? Doesnt make any sense.
    When someone wants answers to anything important, they have a pat answer ready. “It will all come out at trial”. Then why do they keep hogging the limelight? Wait for trial.

  18. November 24, 2009 7:27 am

    Here is an example of what we saw on Sept 6th. We were poking in the ground for a grave not looking for a body in a bag.

  19. November 24, 2009 7:40 am

    She didn’t even have the decency to bury poor little Caylee. She just tossed her in the woods knowing that she would be picked apart by animals. She deserves the death penalty.

  20. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 8:17 am

    Good questions, John. Thanks for the photo link. It looks to me like it would be very easy to get confused about where you were searching with all the dense vegetation and undergrowth. They could have (if they were there at all) be mixed up about where they actually looked. I mean, even D. Casey, with obvious direction from someone on the phone, couldn’t find the exact area, and it really appears that he knew what he was looking for.

  21. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 8:33 am

    annie–I really don’t think the defense cares whether the witnesses are credible or not. Their goal is to create reasonable doubt and show that Casey was not the only person that could have killed Caylee. By saying these people searched the area and Caylee’s body wasn’t there in September, whether they are later discredited or not, the seed of doubt is planted. It’s kind of like when someone is accused of a crime and the story and his picture are splattered all over the front page. Later, someone else confesses and the paper then gives the wrongly accused person a 3 line retraction on page 42. It doesn’t matter that he was cleared of any wrongdoing–people will still associate the crime with him. The damage is done.

  22. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 9:04 am

    WOW!!!! They must be very special witnesses indeed. It’s not every day that you come across people that are able to walk on water! I wonder if they can walk on burning coals too????

  23. November 24, 2009 9:17 am

    Hi Bees, yep you are right, they are going fishing for sure. If my memory serves me right, Kronk made trips into the area and even the cop. They could not get all the way in because of water and neither wanted to get their shoes wet.

    I had thought about getting some boots and going back but the thought of water moccasins scared me quite a bit. Even with the sun at mid day it is dark under the trees.

  24. Spacely permalink
    November 24, 2009 9:37 am

    I am not exactly sure what statements by amatuer volunteer searchers regarding not finding Caylee’s body are suppossed to prove… other than that amatuer searchers are not very good at their jobs, hence the amatuer part.

    Using the statements of amatuers concerning not being able to find a body hidden in multiple layers of bags in thick dark muddy underwater inaccessible woods as proof that there was no body or even as “evidence” that requires further investigation is much like asking your non-mechanic friend to check out a problem with your car, then taking it to a mechanic and refusing to pay for the service because your buddy swears there was nothing wrong when he looked at it.

  25. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 9:40 am

    I hope the defense makes good use of these very special people they’ve found and sends them to Algeria with two fishes and a loaf of bread so they can feed the multitudes there. It would be the right thing to do, no?

  26. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 9:45 am

    Does anyone know if Judge Strickland can put a stop to this? It’s like a runaway train careening out of control and I can’t believe there are no laws in place to stop it. Can you imagine if every murder in the courts behaved the way this defense team does? So, my questions are, is what they’re doing legal and if not who can stop them?

  27. ostella permalink
    November 24, 2009 10:02 am

    Spacely 😆

    I Heart Ya!

  28. 76543 permalink
    November 24, 2009 10:21 am

    If kronk took pictures of the snake. do you think he took pictures of the bag he thought was Caylee. If so then he holds all the cards if there was water mud and garbage. why take a picture of just the snake.What was he really doing in there 3 days in a row when he was on duty as a meter reader. If he was doing his job as your supposed to do he would have only been in that area once for the month. I dont know any meter reader who goes to the same area 3 days in a row. I think he should be checked out further something is not right. I dont believe he killed Caylee but there is more to come.

  29. Spacely permalink
    November 24, 2009 10:34 am


    Why do you believe that Kronk has not been checked out?

    The man showed up out of the blue with the body everyone had been seeking for over 6 months. Is there any possibility that the cops did not have the exact same suspicions you have? Would they not have followed up on this man?

    I know that Baden and Baez and Lyons are out in the media everywhere stating over and over that Kronk was not checked out, that this or that record was not pulled, that the police did not follow up on that or this.

    How exactly does the defense know these details of what was or was not investigated? They DO NOT. Nor does anyone other than police. Because such records are confidential. As Kronk is not on trial and not a suspect and was ruled out by homicide, details of his investigation have not been submitted to the defense as those records will not be part of the trial.

    The fact that we don’t have access to the records does not mean that Kronk was not checked out.

  30. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 10:38 am

    Spacely! “hence the amatuer part.” ~ HA HA HA!!! Good one!

  31. Spacely permalink
    November 24, 2009 10:39 am

    Here is another way to think about it:

    The Sheriff fired the deputy that did such a poor job responding to Kronk’s 911 calls in August. In order to do so, they conducted an investigation. There are even audio public records of the deputy’s interview.

    Would the Sheriff really have conducted an investigation which resulted in the termination of one of his staff, but not investigate the guy who started all of the problems by calling 911 everytime he urinated in public???

  32. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 10:41 am

    Great analogy, Spacely!

    The only thing I would say to Kronk today is, “Thank you.”

  33. November 24, 2009 10:44 am

    she don’t look greif stricken and scared to me, not the way she sits up in court and laughs and smiles. these people are willing to try anything in addition to blaming anybody to get this POS off on what she earned (murder charges) and they need to stop all of this boloney and come up with something that the public believes. and in the process, stop dragging innocent people into this case.

  34. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 10:48 am

    You’re making many good point, Spacely. It is incredulous to me that anyone could even doubt Casey murdered her. Mystery, I am glad you have the type of blogs that is respectful to all points of view. I do appreciate that.

    But respectfully, 76543, I’m having a hard time following your theory. How do you know that he didn’t take more pictures of the area? LE has a great deal more evidence than what we have seen. So far the ONLY link to Caylee is Casey.It is ludicrous to try and fit Kronk into the evidence we know so far. How did he have Casey’s car? How did he have evidence from the Anthony’s home? Why did the police release him if he was a suspect? I could go on and on but there’s no need to.

  35. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 10:55 am

    Absolutely, ArgentinaRose!!! She doesn’t look very grief-stricken to me either (INSERT LAUGHTER HERE ~ HA HA HA HA HA HA HA) We can expect to hear more of this offensive lying from the defense as they try their little hearts out to make us believe that Casey Anthony really does have warm blood in her viens. We already know she doesn’t so, good luck with all that, defense team!

  36. ostella permalink
    November 24, 2009 10:57 am

    I honestly think Kronk was following his gut. He’s a former bounty hunter. And there were many other witnesses who had already stated they believed Caylee was in those woods near the school (Kiomarie Cruz, and I believe the guy’s name was Keith Williams? The other guy that looked in the woods) that was the “hotspot” a lot of people were focused on. Except Officer Cain.

  37. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 10:59 am

    Pretty soon the defense will be describing Casey to us as sitting piously in her cell, white bonnet upon her head, Bible in her lap, cross-stitching a picture of Caylee, unable to see her stitches with her eyes being flooded with tears and sobbing quietly. This is what I expect from Lyon.

  38. ostella permalink
    November 24, 2009 11:01 am

    If Casey’s crying, its cuz she just looked at The Lyon and saw herself in 5 years…..

  39. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 11:01 am

    I agree, Ostella. I don’t see anything suspicious about it. And the thing is, I really don’t care. The only thing I cared about was that her body was found. Period.

  40. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 11:02 am

    HA HA!!! They’re almost mirror images now. Casey needs to pack on some more pounds, which she seems to be doing anyway.

  41. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 11:05 am

    Thanks for the information and link to the video of the “ladies” from the defense team. Was funny to watch, actually.

  42. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 11:06 am

    I love to think about the ruination of both Baez and Lyon’s legal reputations. They’ve shown us just how evil they are. Lyon should have stayed where she was. I think this was a fatal career move. And that makes me soooo happy.

  43. November 24, 2009 11:10 am


  44. November 24, 2009 11:16 am


  45. 76543 permalink
    November 24, 2009 11:20 am

    Like I said Kronk may have photos of that area and also the bag of Caylees remains and maybe LE dosent have them. Or maybe they do! It seems the defence has to know so they have to bring everything out to make sure that those photos dont exisit. If they do. It is a done deal. Cant imagine taking a photo of just the snake. If they do exist what were his intentions.

  46. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 11:21 am

    diana–there are a lot of questions I wish someone would ask the defense! How come none of these reporters that actually get the chance to speak with them don’t ask the tough questions? Pipitone actually asked some good ones in the interview mikka posted. Of course, the answers were lame. Just the usual–“Wait til the trial and you will see the big beautiful picture of this “poor young girl” (can you believe they called her that?) that we have seen all along.”

  47. November 24, 2009 11:21 am


  48. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 11:24 am

    Bees–I heard coals were no problem-o. Heck they can even walk through fire!

  49. November 24, 2009 11:24 am


  50. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 11:25 am

    John–Be glad you didn’t go back to search. If you’d found the body, it would be YOU we’d be discussing today instead of Kronk.

  51. November 24, 2009 11:28 am


  52. ostella permalink
    November 24, 2009 11:28 am

    Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but are these 2 even officially a part of TES? Has it been confirmed they’re affiliated at all? Or did they just come outta the woodwork with claims they can not only walk on water, but also have x-ray vision that allows them to spot a small skeleton in a black bag under 2 feet of mucky water?

  53. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 11:28 am

    Spacely–Great analogy about the mechanic. I agree. The reason Tim Miller called off searching that area was because he was afraid the “amateur” volunteers would inadvertently step on Caylee’s little body. I would still like to know how they can remember exactly where they were when (and if) they were part of the search teams. There must be maps with the location being searched marked off. It should be easy to prove, and Tim Miller said that spot was not looked at.

  54. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 11:30 am

    Well, I totally agree that Strickland should put a Gag Order in effect immediately then. Do you think he will? I thought it had to come from either the state or the defense but if the Judge can do it what’s he waiting for? He’s a smart man and must easily see what they’re up to.

  55. Spacely permalink
    November 24, 2009 11:40 am

    Gag order – already ruled on – judge decided the damage was done and nothing could be done to stop the Anthony’s from blabbing all they want because they are the victim’s family, so no point in a gag order. This was one of the first motions the defense put through so they could be sure their media blitzing could not be challenged.

    No one could possibly have verified those two as actual TES volunteers. Only TES has access to those private records. Only Miller or NeJame will be able to definetively say if they were volunteers or not.

  56. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 24, 2009 11:55 am

    Great. So you only get one shot at a gag order, huh? Well that SUCKS. While it may be true that the damage to the case has already happened, imposing a Gag Order at this point might have saved a few more Defense casualties.

  57. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 12:11 pm

    Bees asked–

    Does anyone know if Judge Strickland can put a stop to this? It’s like a runaway train careening out of control and I can’t believe there are no laws in place to stop it. Can you imagine if every murder in the courts behaved the way this defense team does? So, my questions are, is what they’re doing legal and if not who can stop them?

    That is a great question, Bees, and one I would like answered as well. I think I know the answer unfortunately–Look at some of the other high profile cases that are taking place right now–one in particular–Melissa Huckaby, murderer of Sandra Cantu. We know very little about this case other than the child was raped with some sort of instrument and murdered. I don’t think we have even been given the specifics of the actual murder. Why? Because there is a gag order. Baez refused a gag order in this case, knowing full well that the public would be fed a steady stream of information from the State to the defense because of the Sunshine Laws. Why would he want that to happen? So he can plaster himself all over the media trying to create reasonable doubt in a case that has none (or very little at this point) He’s also making, (in his mind) a career for himself. By the time this case gets to trial, it is the hope of the defense that there is so much confusion surrounding it that it will be beneficial to them.

  58. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 12:22 pm

    76543 said:

    If kronk took pictures of the snake. do you think he took pictures of the bag he thought was Caylee. If so then he holds all the cards if there was water mud and garbage.

    76543, I believe the pictures of the snake were taken after the fact. They removed the snake and took it with them. That was what kept them from looking any farther. Fear of more snakes.

    I’m assuming, because the state has said so on numerous occassions, Kronk and his story was checked out thoroughly. I believe this is just an attempt by the defense to introduce the possibility that someone other than Casey could have done this. Baez himself said he was not accusing Kronk of anything. (though he sort of is)

    You would have to completely toss out all the other information we know to be true, like the reports saying that because of the growth of vegetation, etc. the body had been there since June. We would also have to take a great leap of imagination to figure out how Kronk had access to the things found with Caylee (the laundry hamper, the bedding that Cindy said was missing, etc.) Not to mention how in the heck he managed to get her body in the trunk of Casey’s car.

  59. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 12:23 pm


    I should have read your response before I responded to 76543! You said it way better than me!

  60. mikka permalink
    November 24, 2009 1:05 pm

    argentinia rose,for a gag order its too late,kronks damage to him is done!

  61. azrenee permalink
    November 24, 2009 1:07 pm

    Most interesting to me, in the interview with Pippitone I got the strong inpression it wasnt Caseys guilt the Gals were contesting, as much as the DP. Comparing Casey to ted bundy etc. The most telling slip I saw was Baden saying Casey made a very very stupid mistake not reporting her daughter missing,….what????? Baez says there is a VERY compelling reason why this happoened and we would all be amazed and enlightened at trial. Matter of fact, that is the statement in which Cindy mentioned Casey would get the mother of the year award when we found out the “truth”. Which story are they going with, stupid mistake or compelling reason to invite everyone she knew to Fusion Nightclub, while her daughter was supposedly kidnapped???

  62. Spacely permalink
    November 24, 2009 1:25 pm

    The compelling story is as follows:

    KC tried repeatedly to call the cops by dialing 911. But everytime she hit “9”, she got an outside line. The first “1” triggered the speed-dial to Tony. She didn’t want to feel stupid everytime he answered, so she confirmed her nightly Fusion party with him. Then, in case he checked her call log, she called everyone she knew and invited them too.

    And that is why she never reported anyone missing to police. She tried. She really did. But the technology was beyond her.

    And Zanny stole her phone… with the sim card with all Zanny’s details on it… only Zanny was really Kronk in a black wig… and a mini-skirt…

  63. MAND permalink
    November 24, 2009 1:51 pm

    I agree..those that are now saying they searched the area Caylee was found….is for their own 15mins. of SHAME…they are hoping to be invited on one of the news shows…who knows they could end up with their own book??? MONEY…MONEY….MONEY…BOTH GREEDY B’S….

  64. November 24, 2009 1:52 pm

    In the month of September this story was so hot that everyone like now had an idea what happened to Caylee. One of Casey’s friends had talked about playing in the woods as kids and lots of people picked up on that, I did. I think Kronk was no different than me and many in his thinking. I pinpointed her location on an aerial map and even sent it to Tim Miller. Kronk lived and worked closer and could go there more often than me and he did. He must have had the same thoughts about where she was as many, some looked and some did not. Others were there who were not part of TES looking also. So it appears a lot of people had the same idea. Kronk stayed at it and sad for him found her.

    Yes, I am so thankful that I did not find and see what Kronk did. I also would not want to hire an attorney because I had an idea. Kronks idea will cost him dearly in every respect. Half will see him as the good guy and half the bad guy.

    One other thing. That photo of the junk was in one location at the end of the paved road and about a 100 feet in on a dirt road. It was not anywhere near the body and was what looked like a dumping area. Trying to get a photo in where caylee was found would be difficult because of light or the lack of it being that a flash only goes about 5 feet. Even the LE’s photos of the crime scene are on the dark side.

  65. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 1:57 pm

    ArgentinaRose said:

    they need to stop all of this boloney and come up with something that the public believes. and in the process, stop dragging innocent people into this case.

    That’s their problem AR–they CAN’T come up with something the public will believe cuz’ they have nothing!

    And I think you are probably right–People are and will be people coming out of the woodwork to get their 15 min. Why? Cuz’ the Anthonys themselves brought the circus to town! They set the tone of things to come months ago.

  66. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 2:02 pm


    The questions you posed to 76543 were “respectfully”, questions he couldn’t answer. Those and Spacely’s questions are the same ones the defense will also have trouble answering when the prosecution asks them

    Bees said:

    Lyon should have stayed where she was. I think this was a fatal career move.

    I don’t know about fatal, but it’s certainly setting her back a peg or two. She’s not as “brilliant” as she thinks she is from what I’ve seen!

  67. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 2:09 pm

    Ostella said:

    are these 2 even officially a part of TES? Has it been confirmed they’re affiliated at all?

    I don’t think it’s been verified at all. They were not listed in the names Tim Miller provided the defense as being in the area.

  68. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 2:11 pm

    Spacely–I agree with you about the gag order–the outcome of not having one has been the one thing that has played out exactly as Baez planned it.

  69. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 2:15 pm

    Good catch, azrenee! And I’m sure they will wait “until the trial” to decide which it is–“stupid mistake” or “mother of the year” award for Casey. They hafta get all that chit on the wall and see which sticks before they make that decision.

  70. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 2:17 pm

    Spacely! You nailed it! You should mail that scenario to the defense so they can start workin’ it!

  71. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 2:19 pm

    Hi Mand!

    Oh, I’m sure they will be interviewed and interviewed again–kinda like Kronk’s lovely ex-wives…..

  72. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 24, 2009 2:24 pm


    I also believe a lot of people had the same “hunch” that this might be where and how someone as lazy as Casey might have put her daughter. Kronk didn’t need to be a rocket scientist or have inside information. If I had lived in the area, I might have done the same thing you and many others did. What’s sad to me is that the people that were close to Casey (and knew her well) didn’t do the same thing. Instead they sat on their butts at their makeshift “Headquarters” and complained that the world wasn’t doing their part in searching for Caylee.

  73. mikka permalink
    November 24, 2009 3:28 pm

    john i am glad too,you dont find caylee,of course she will blame then you!

  74. ???MAND permalink
    November 24, 2009 4:43 pm

    Mystery….Speaking of those two lovely heifers….I can see why he might have had to use duck tape on the one he was with for only 4 months!!!! Truth be known it was probably the other way around….she got herself a man and was Hell bent on keeping him any way she could..LOL!!! If he did use the D.T. it was more than likely using it to give him time to get away?? I’m sure she doesn’t have a lot of male admirers????
    Sounds like the two Exes have an ax to grind???

    Sorry, so late in replying, Mand. Got caught up in the holiday. I wish I’d seen this sooner though! I’m LMAO!!!

  75. mikka permalink
    November 24, 2009 5:07 pm


    from wesh

    Not a bombshell to me, mikka! I’ve never doubted there would be a trail leading right to the hands of Casey Anthony. I know there has been no fingerprints, but I’m holding out hope that she left one somewhere and we just haven’t learned about it yet.

  76. Spacely permalink
    November 25, 2009 10:30 am

    Bad news for child justice:

    What a skuzz-ball elitist piggie! Yes it is a bad day for justice. This man admitted he did these despicable things.

  77. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 25, 2009 10:56 am

    MAND, that is really funny ~ taping her so he could escape!! LOL! It’s easier to believe that than anything else!

  78. mikka permalink
    November 25, 2009 11:15 am

    spacley,thanks,but this girl, now a woman,dont want him on trial too,thats what she was saying!!!

    It still sucks!

  79. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 25, 2009 11:51 am

    Fresh Blink:

    Thanks, Bees! I actually had not had time over the holiday to see this and had heard it was no longer available. I’m going to be able to listen to it after all!

  80. mikka permalink
    November 25, 2009 12:29 pm

    from orlando,

    Anthony, 23, will spend her second Thanksgiving at the Orange County Jail, and it appears as though she’ll celebrate the holiday without family.

    Jail officials said none of Anthony’s relatives have scheduled to visit her.

    It’s unclear if defense attorney Jose Baez will visit Anthony, as attorney visits do not have to be pre-scheduled.

    Anthony is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter Caylee.

    It will be a typical day at the jail Thursday, a jail spokesman said.

    The holiday menu includes oven-roasted turkey, seasoned potatoes, mixed vegetables, cranberry sauce, pumpkin spice cake, bread and juice.

    I saw a photo of the typical meal somewhere. It looked nasty! We should all send Casey photos and videos of our own luscious dinners! Maybe Cindy already did! 😀

  81. ostella permalink
    November 25, 2009 1:18 pm

    I heard the Dream Team and the “whole famn damily” will be visiting Casey tomorrow, to perform their pageant of the first Thanksgiving Dinner. They’ve been practicing their roles for months. Baez is Chief Massasoit, and LKB and Macaluso are his tribe members. George and Cindy (and Lee and Mallory) will be the Pilgrims. They’re going to dress up the SS Caylee Marie like the Mayflower, and pull up to the jail as if they were landing at Plymouth Rock. The Lyon will play the Turkey.

    For The Princess must be entertained….

    ostella, that’s a hoot! LOLOLOLOL!!!

  82. mikka permalink
    November 25, 2009 1:37 pm

    i wish everybody for tomorrow!


    Mine was awesome, thank you! I hope yours was, too!!

  83. BEES KNEES permalink
    November 25, 2009 2:46 pm

    Ostella! You should apologize to the turkey.

    Refusing a Gag Order while at the same time using national media to spread their spin and contamination should be illegal, no? I wonder what OA thinks about this? Could the Judge have placed the Gag Order anyway, without Defense’s approval? Boy, did they get lucky when they pulled Strickland as the Judge in this case. It’s been said that he is extremely patient. I wonder if it’s hard for him to allow some of their motions making it very difficult (impossible?) for them to cry “mis-trial” and without losing patience with regards to the court’s (taxpayer’s) huge waste of time and money at the same time. Poor Judge Strickland. I wonder if he will write a book? I would buy his.

    Hopefully, in the end, their refusal of a gag order to promote their own agenda will back fire on the whole sorry lot. Judge Strickland definitely has a balancing act, bless his heart!!

  84. ostella permalink
    November 25, 2009 3:01 pm

    Bees, maybe instead of the turkey, The Lyon could dress as the first Thanksgiving Peacock? She could proudly display her feathers before the starving pilgrims, while Baez (in a loincloth and peacock feathered headdress) lingers in the background with a bow and arrow, waiting for the perfect moment to strike. Meanwhile, Macaluso will pass a mushroom shaped peacepipe to the pilgrims. Sherry Milstead will operate the snow-machine. Poorly.

    Can’t see Lyon as a peacock–she’ll always be the turkey to me. Linda Kenney Biden? Now there’s a peacock!!

  85. mikka permalink
    November 25, 2009 5:39 pm

    drew tate the searcher say,he believe caylee was there and the anthonys cover up ,and only LEE can move teh body,and when she ask him about bozo he roll his eyes! 😆

    part2 from interviews

    Thanks, mikka!

  86. Spacely permalink
    November 25, 2009 7:15 pm

    Haleigh Update:

    Thanks for the link, Spacely. Wonder if we’ll hear the results of that interview any time soon? I’ve just about given up on Haleigh ever being found…..

  87. T-L-I-O-T-G permalink
    November 25, 2009 8:36 pm

    How much did they pay these ppl??wanna see me pull a hat out of a rabbit!!wowowowowowowowow….


  88. nancy permalink
    November 26, 2009 12:06 am

    Hi Mystery!!! Hi Everyone!!! I just wanted to wish everyone a wonderful and blessed Thanksgiving!!

    God Bless!


    nancy, I hope you had a blessed holiday. You deserved one for sure!!

  89. Renee permalink
    November 26, 2009 10:48 am

    Drat! I didn’t get to that one before they snatched it.

  90. stephanie permalink
    November 26, 2009 11:57 am

    Hi Mystery and everyone else…Hope you all have a safe and wonderful Thanksgiving.

    I did for sure! Hope you and everyone else had a terrific holiday as well!

  91. niecey456 permalink
    November 27, 2009 2:17 pm

    Hey Mystery & Everyone! I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
    Mystery, I’ve been off for a while, but when I came back and read all that I missed, I was amazed. I don’t buy all of this foolishness. I can’t understand why all of these people are just now coming forward. From the searchers, Kronk’s exes, etc. I think this is all a set up. I don’t buy any of it. JMO. The defense has nothing and so they are trying to create something.

    Hi niecey! Hope you had a great holiday with your little Christian! Ours was tiring but a lot of fun!

    Yeah, I think this is just some chit thrown at the wall.

  92. itsamysterytome permalink*
    November 30, 2009 1:17 pm

    Hi, I responded (late, I’m sorry!) within the comment boxes.

    Hope everyone had a terrific holiday and that no one gained more than 7 or 8 lbs!

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