DOCS:Caylee A. Case
DOCUMENTS RELEASED NOVEMBER 6, 2009
doc 1 LINK photos
doc 2 LINK Manufacturer info about Henkel duct tape
doc 3 LINK info when photos of tattoo were taken
doc 4 LINK Entomology report DECOMP in bag in trunk Based on the stages of the flies and decomp in the trunk, the entomologists put a time-line of between June 19-22 for when the body was removed from the trunk. .
doc 5 LINK FBI reports
doc 6 LINK FBI lab reports–bullet examination & comparisons-lab & bullet worksheets-lab submissions
doc 7 LINK Inventory lists from area where Caylee was found and from the house-lab logs-emails
doc 8 LINK-DNA experts credentials
doc 9 LINK lab worksheets-emails, pg 10728 Casey never consented to submit her DNA, they had to get a search warrant for her buccal swab, test results from DNA
doc-10 -lab results on hair from shovel
doc 11 LINK inventory lists, DNA analysis, mitochondrial search results
doc 12 LINK pg 10876, duct tape on skull and duct tape on gas can came from same source roll of tape or rolls manufactured in the same manner. lists, emails, Henkel tape info, charts
doc- 13LINK contains info on the knife. pg 10946: “Minute amts. of clear sticky materials were present on 2 areas of the blade; however, neither material is consistent with the duct tape adhesive.”
doc 14 LINK report of examination of tape, lists, lab worksheets,
doc 15 LINK hair mass sample testing results. not tested for chloroform, tested for other drugs was negative. pg 11064: “negative results should not be interpreted as proof that the individual was not exposed to the drugs listed.” evidence lists.
doc 16 LINK charts, lab summaries
doc 17 LINK lab worksheets-no chloroform on the carseat or the steering wheel. Some staining on carseat. photos
doc 18 LINK lab worksheets-emails-chain of custody logs pg 11247 putrifactive odor and stains found on carpet samples (Q24,Q25,Q44,Q45) photos, charts
doc 19 LINK lab charts and summaries
doc 20 LINK charts-lab summaries- pg. 11472: Q22,Q23,Q44,Q45 (all from spare tire cover in trunk of Casey’s car) residues of chloroform were within the specimens. Q24 and Q25 (from spare tire cover) residues consisten with chloroform were detected.
doc 21 LINK lab worksheets-lists-evidence sheets – pg 11526: chloroform, ethanol and testosterone test positive in the gatorade bottle and in the syringe–result summaries-charts-photos
doc 22 LINK lab charts and summaries
doc 23 LINK lab charts
doc 24 LINK lab results-charts
doc 25 LINK lab results-charts
doc 26 LINK Charts -lab summaries and results
doc 27 LINK DNA analysis review sheets-lab worksheets-lists-
doc 28 LINK DNA review sheets-FBI Lab reports-emails
doc 29 LINK Chain of Custody Log
doc 30 LINK DNA Sample Processing Record
doc 31 LINK DNA Sample Record Processing-emails-serological exams-photos-graphs
doc 32 LINK serological exams
doc 33 LINK serological exams
doc 34 LINK serological examinations-DNA analysis review sheets-Biologists review sheets-graphs-DNA test results
DOCUMENTS RELEASED OCTOBER 15, 2009
DOCUMENTS RELEASED SEPTEMBER 29, 2009
Included are emails and reports.
Detailed email from someone named Cindy in Texas titled “Possible angles on Zenaida” –Lots of research and speculation about Zenaida Gonzales.
pg 6: Dominic Casey’s offer to sponsor Lee Anthony’s PI internship! Concludes the letter with “Welcome aboard!”
pg. 17: email stating someone named “Laura Rose” is friends with “William Waters” (a friend of Casey’s) on myspace. Laura Rose is friends with Zenaida Gonzales on myspace. It is the same ZG that filled out the application card at Sawgrass. William Waters visited Casey in jail. On July 22, 2009, Laura Rose sent William Waters a message: “She’s ok. I just feel it
pg. 23: Dominic Casey’s letter of engagement with George and Cindy Anthony.
Lots of emails between Cindy and Dominic and others. Trying to come up with other scenarios that would make Casey innocent. In other words, trying to create reasonable doubt that Casey could have murdered her daughter.
more of the same. Lots of stuff to discredit Zenaida Gonzales.
Pg. 37: dated 12/8/08: Cindy tells John Allen in an email that Dominic Casey is not part of the defense team. She says he works only for her and George for the sole purpose of finding Caylee Marie.
lots of people searches, lists of new businesses, more searches for Zenaida Gonzales,
pg 20: email from D Casey to Cindy: “As requested is our withdrawal of services to Jose. Dominic” Letter to Jose dated October 1, 2008.
Information about the duct tape plus stores that sold the tape, the total they sold, plus the years sold. Written in the margin, NO SALES-2008-2009
Annie Dowling, January 6, 2009, transcript of interview with LE
pg. 2: Written statement made by James Thompson, a computer store owner, to the Maitland Police Department. He claims Casey and Caylee came into his store a week before Father’s Day and Casey inquired about a computer monitor. He gave Caylee a toy and he noted Casey didn’t behave like a normal mother. Then, the day AFTER Father’s Day, he ran into Casey and Caylee coming out of Walmart. He recognized them. He noted that Caylee was walking about 10 feet behind Casey and Casey made the little girl open the heavy door by herself. He suggested that police check out the Walmart surveillance video to see for themselves.
Info and evidence submitted to the FBI lab from Casey Anthony’s car.
pg 33, 34: discussion of the staining on the carpet looks like the image of a child’s body in a fetal position.
DNA results from the body found in the woods compared to Caylee’s DNA. Positive ID.
Items taken from the Anthony home after the body was found.
Lots of lab results.
lists of things found at the crime scene. DNAresults
more test results
the report saying that the heart residue was destroyed on the duct tape around Caylee’s skull.
pg 49 Casey refused to give her DNA and the Sheriff’s department had to get a warrant to get it.
PROSECUTION’S RESPONSE TO MOTION FILED SEPTEMBER 17TH BY THE DEFENSE SEPTEMBER 22, 2009
MOTIONS FILED BY THE DEFENSE SEPTEMBER 17, 2009
DOCUMENTS RELEASED SEPTEMBER 4, 2009
The bounty hunters first met with the family in a warehouse type district in someone’s out of the way office. Inside was Lee Cindy George, Leonard, Tony, Rob. No media were around. They met with Jose Baez the next day. It was the 4 of them with Jose. The Anthonys and Jose Baez wanted to make sure the bondsmen were just bailing her out and that they would not interview her. Padilla assured them they were there to bail her out and make sure nothing happened to Casey.
Contractural agreement: They can’t interrogate her. Leonard said that doesn’t prevent her from talking to us does it? And Jose said he wanted to be there if she chose to talk to them.
Detective: What was your original role?
Dick’s main role was to run security around the family and her. Tracy was supposed to just be with Casey. He ws supposed to be making sure Casey got to where she was supposed to be without something happening, as there were lots of threats to her and the bondsmen. The family was getting death threats.
Detective: What did she say the first time she got into the vehicle with him?
Dick didn’t talk to her at all at that time. When they got to the house, Casey’s attitude really bothered him. The whole thing was like a game to her. A normal person doesn’t act like that. The parents were emotional for her to come home. Casey wasn’t emotional at all.
Detective: Did Jose change the guidelines or the rules where Casey was concerned?
Yes. After they were in the house there would be no talking to her and they were not to be alone with her, period. they could be with her only when a family member or Baez was present. Even then, he didn’t want Leonard or Rob in the house at all–only Tracy. He was worried she might talk to them.
Detective: What was her demeanor like that first night?
Dick: Like a happy go lucky person.
Detective: Was she a grieving mother?
Dick: “Not at all. Nothing about Caylee at all.”
Rob Dick felt he caught Lee in a major lie and he didn’t want anything else to do with him. He felt Lee was hindering the investigation.
Rob said he thinks Lee either has some involvement or knows a lot more than he’s telling.
Lee lied about Casey’s reaction to finding out there was human decomposition in the trunk of her car. He said to Rob Dick that she was horribly upset–they almost had to call 911 she was so stressed. Tracy told Rob the exact opposite. Casey wasn’t upset at all. She said very casually that there were a lot of people that had access to her car–including Jesse Grund.
“Eric Baker” is who George said was the father of Caylee.
Detective: What did Casey say about her brother, Lee?
Dick: She said the main person she trusted was Lee, and he knows everything I know.
Rob said Casey told him, “They (LE) haven’t even found the clothes she (Caylee) was wearing.”
Not much new on this one. Good ole Lenny pretty much spilled his guts on Nancy Grace and other news shows. It is an interesting listen though!
D. Casey is obviously looking for something specific in this video. Pavers have something to do with what he’s looking for.
Kronk says, “I just found a human skull. It’s a human skull with duct tape across the mouth. ..I told you. I told you, Ray. I told you she was there.”
Cindy complains about Yuri Melich. Calls him narrow minded, and says he lectures her about Casey. She said she realizes Casey lied, but until someone brings her proof beyond a reasonable doubt, she will continue to believe Caylee is alive.
She doesn’t trust Yuri and read through the transcripts of his questioning of Casey. He didn’t ask her questions. He told her stories. He gave her scenarios and wanted her to explain “stuff”.
She was told an Amber Alert would be put out that first night. They Anthonys watched television all the next day, and there was no Amber Alert. Later, police told them that Caylee didn’t qualify for an Amber Alert. She felt Yuri had pre-determined that Casey did it at that point.
Cindy: “Casey hasn’t had a fair shake.”
Matt: “Cindy. My concern is Caylee.”
Cindy: “Oh mine is too, but…….blah blah Casey blah blah Casey blah blah Casey blah…………………..blah
Then, you can’t really understand what Cindy is blah blah blahing about as she and the detective apparently get out of the car and start walking. There is a lot of background noise.
They go into a restaurant and sit down. There’s still a lot of background noise. And she’s still complaining about Yuri.
Then she starts complaining about John, another detective. Apparently, he lectures her about Casey, too.
Matt says again the focus should be on Caylee, not Casey. He says there are reasons John and Yuri are doing what they are doing. They are trying to get at the truth–not make Cindy mad. Cindy says, “I know!” and goes back to talking about the way Yuri and John are treating her about Casey. She then says because of the way they are treating her, she won’t take the polygraph, and she doesn’t have to.
Cindy no longer believes in “the system”.
Cindy said she would still have called 911 knowing what she knows today. She defends Casey saying she had plenty of opportunity to run.
Matt: “Were getting hung up in the little things that in the big scheme of things aren’t gonna be worthwhile.” Cindy just blows right over that statement and continues to complain about Yuri.
Cindy says she’s in the “reality” thing–we have to move forward. She and Lee were “there” on Saturday, but George isn’t. He’s struggling the hardest. It’s going to take him longer. (Whatever that means???? I always thought George was the one dealing in reality and Cindy wasn’t.)
One of the attorneys asked about “limited use immunity” for Casey. Matt said they talked to Baez and told him if she’s panicked and is afraid to say, she needs to get on the right side of the curb with this–whether it was the pool or whatever the circumstances. But, “If they wait til we find Caylee it’s not gonna look good.”
Cindy says if there was an accident she believes Casey would cry out to them for help. If Caylee even skins her knee, Casey calls Cindy. Cindy thinks she wouldn’t do that to her family if it was an accident. If she was covering up for someone—she didn’t know if she would do that.
Jose Baez insinuates to Cindy that Casey is innocent. Cindy tells Matt, “She’s telling the truth. I mean, the players are there…”
Cindy cries a little when talking about other children being found because of Caylee and how she is happy with that.
This tape is almost comical. The detective can barely get a word in edgewise, and Cindy’s voice almost becomes hypnotic after awhile. I think I might have actually nodded off, once!
The whole jest of this, is Cindy complaining about police. She goes on and on about Casey. It’s striking how little Caylee is mentioned by Cindy.
key points from Tracy Mclaughlin interview.
1. Baez had Tracy sign something that said she couldn’t record anything but the rules changed later and it was not notarized and she had no copy of it.
2. When she was released from jail the first time, Casey didn’t say anything about Caylee. She came into the house, took a shower, talked about how people snuck her in stuff at the jail and how they loved her. It was “like she’d gone to Iraq and just got home or something. A real happy time.” She didn’t seem upset at all.
3. The neighbor’s shovel was brought up. Casey said “Hello! They didn’t even have the timeline right! I used the shovel to get the LADDER OUT OF THE POOL.” Cindy then told her to shut up, and later Tracy was told the shovel was about “cutting bamboo roots”.
4. During visits to Jose’s office she spent a lot of time on the computer. She wasn’t with Jose all day long. She was supposedly looking for “clues” as to where Caylee was, but she never mentioned to Tracy what she might have “uncovered.”
5. When she found out there were signs of decomposition in her car, all she said was “A lot of people had access to that car.” Then the next day, “Jesse had a key to the car.” The attorney later tried to lead Padilla to believe Jesse could be to blame. Tracy thinks that’s the way the defense will go–try to blame it on Jesse.
6. They watched the tv show, “The Hills”. (a teenaged reality show) Tracy asked her if she knew about the date rape drug, and how if you take it you’re knocked out. Casey said,yeah, like ruffies, and Tracy said like ether, and Casey said LIKE CHLOROFORM. THIS WAS BEFORE THE WHOLE ISSUE OF CHLOROFORM CAME UP. The chloroform news came out AFTER Tracy was long gone from the house.
7. Cindy had Tracy check out the chloroform site. (which was on Ricardo’s myspace. ) Tracy thought it was because she was trying to implicate Ricardo.
8. Cindy complained that the police weren’t looking for Caylee. Tracy said, but NEITHER WAS ANYONE IN THE HOUSE LOOKING FOR CAYLEE.
One day Tracy was in another part of the house and thought she heard Casey in the next room cry out while she was on the computer. Tracy was shocked because Casey hadn’t cried once since she’d been home. She went in to where Caseywas and found she was laughing not crying– over a guy that contacted her on myspace that was good looking that wanted to hang out with her.
9. Cindy asked Tracy what she thought happened at one point. Did Casey lose her at the mall or what?
10. Tracy heard George screaming one night at Casey. “Don’t f**king lie to me! etc. etc Casey said, “No! You stop acting like a cop and act like my father for once in your life!” Casey then insisted that her dad leave.
Later, Tracy heard George say, “I can’t do it. I’m not going to live this lie,” to his friend Jim. After their blow up earlier George wouldn’t go near Casey.
11.Casey said to Jose when they left the jail under the umbrella (that famous scene where Casey whispers in Jose’s ear) “Get me the f**k out of here.”
12. Casey said of a picture of Caylee, “This is my little ITALIAN.” Tracy said I thought Caylee was hispanic (referring to Jesus Ortiz), and Casey said, “Does she LOOK Hispanic?” and later said Jesus Ortiz was not her dad.
Most notable: Casey said very little about Caylee at all. She did not act like a grieving mother. She acted very narcissistic.
DOCUMENTS RELEASED AUGUST 7, 2009
report on the odor in the trunk on page 1.
page 2 contains only one thing. This fingerprint. No explanation, no nothing. just the print on a blank page.
pg. 2: Anthony Lazarro agreed to have his phone monitored by LE
pg. 8: LE installed trap and trace devices on “several subjects” telephones.
pg: 304: Monitoring devices put on George, Cindy, Lee’s, Jesse Grunds, George and Cindy’s land line, and Tony’s phones.
shows a 3-D slide show of the crime scene, and of the snake, plus
DOCUMENTS RELEASED JULY 30, 2009
A June, 2009, letter to Lawson Lamar from the FBI:
Amy Huizenga, Jesse Grund, Anthony Lazaro, Ricardo Morales, and Anthony Rusciano were asked to take polygraphs and they agreed and took the tests in August and September of 2008.
George, Cindy, and Lee Anthony were asked to take the polygraph test and refused.
Evidence report March, 2009:
Items brought in by Nick Savage & John Allen and turned over by Jose Baez including personal items of Caylee’s and her umbilical cord. Also lab results.
pg 4 & 5: Statement report August 08:
handwritten by Cindy, remembering things about Zanny the Nanny and Juliette Lewis that included items they gave Caylee and Casey.
pg 6: Richard Grund statement saying he had loaned a cell phone (Nokia) of his to Casey Anthony in fall of 2007 and it had never been returned.
pg 8: voodoo doll and box. Doesn’t say where they got it.
Jesse Grund’s police recruit test scores as well as his resignation letter on June 25, 2008.
pg 8: memorandum stating Jesse was deficient in several high liability areas and could not recommend him to solo patrol at this time.
pg 14-17: Training notes on Jesse Grund that paint him as someone who is rather immature and tends to not accept responsibiltiy for his own actions. He was held back for remedial training, but was later re-evaluated and allowed to advance to Level 4 of his training.
pg 24: Signed a form saying he didn’t think he should advance to Phase 4.
pg 35: has Bachelor’s of Criminology, Florida State U.
This is 85 pages of Jesse Grund’s police training. From what I read his performance was inconsistent. Praised for his performances sometimes, and rated careless or sloppy (my words) in others.
more of Jesse Grund’s police training records. Very detailed. He makes a lot of mistakes on patrol during stops. There are detailed reports from officer’s on site with him of those errors. It’s clear he is “book smart” but not “street smart”.
more of the same. Detailed reports of the calls Jesse Grund made as a police officer.
more of the same. Jesse Grund training as a police officer, detailed reports.
more of Jesse’s police training reports. Includes letter stating that his leaving the program was a , “voluntary seperation not involving misconduct.” (pg. 13)
Civil Service application for Police Officer (Jesse Grund)
pg 69-70 blacked out-possibly in regards to a 6th personal reference on job application for Jesse Grund
includes his background check (starting on page 80) for admission to the police training program (he has never been arrested) and all of his school records.
MORE background info on Jesse Grund from his police training. (Alls I can say is that the Orlando Police department are very thorough in checking out potential recruits!)
Jesse Grund’s weekly attendance record in the training program
more attendance records for Jesse Grund
Tips followed up:
the dress that was found during Tim Miller’s search that was supposedly identical to one Caylee wore in a photo. (later determined to be planted and not her dress at all) emails concerning that information being leaked to a reporter.)
Tip report concerning a psychic directing Keith Williams to a bag of stuffed animals and clothing in the woods.
A dark haired young woman and young man taking pictures by an open field. Trunk was open. (pg 9-18)
Tip with a list of Zenaida Gonzales and their addresses found by a concerned citizen. (pg 27-31)
Gale St. John (the psychic with the Body Hunters) tips (pg 39-48)
more tips and reports
***report by Detective Eric Ameye concerning a series of voicemails received. Two from a Luke Phillips saying he had info as to where Caylee was and that she was being held by 2 armed suspects.
Also a voice mail from George Anthony asking him to call Luke Phillips in regards to Caylee’s location. Said his family was contacted by Phillips.
George Anthony advised Detective Ameye that a PI was looking for Caylee but the family didn’t hire him. He had contacted the family attorney and he thought he was working for him. He only knew his first name was Dominic. Said Lee Anthony would get back to him on his full name.
George said he was aware of the given location of Caylee as provided by Luke Phillips but was unsure if he would give that information to OCSO. (pg 1-3)***
Incident report from an inmate being released from OCSO and was in a holding cell when Casey Anthonywas on her way to court. She had been stopped at the holding cell and had a conversation with this man, Travis Nichols on 7/28/09.
He wrote in the report that he asked her where she thought her baby was and she said she didn’t know. He asked her about the babysitter and she said that was made up. He asked if the boyfriend had her and she said she believed that was the case. He said she smiled the whole time and kept eye contact with him as she left. The conversation lasted 2-3 minutes. (pg 38)
Tips submitted by Cindy Anthony and other tips that were followed up on
October 14, 2o08 transcript of Casey Anthony interview with LE the day she was arrested for the last time. The video of this interview was previously released. (pages 1-32)
April 21, 2009 Cindy Anthony interview with Scott Bolin transcript. I think the video of this was released earlier. The date on this must be when it was transcribed as they had not found Caylee at the time of this interview. (pages 33 to end part 1)
Cindy Anthony interview part 2)
Cindy Anthony interview part 3)
Cindy Anthony interview with Yuri Melich on August 1, 2008 (starts on page 52)
part 2 of Cindy Anthony interview August 1, 2008
George Anthony interview transcript previously released as video ( part 1)
Geoerge Anthony interview transcript previously released as video part 2)
MOTIONS FROM THE DEFENSE JULY 16, 2009
CAYLEE ANTHONY AUTOPSY REPORTS JUNE 19, 2009
DOCUMENTS RELEASED JUNE 12, 2009
This one’s interesting. She was a protester turned supporter of the Anthonys. She searched for Caylee on her own and with Tim Miller. Became acquaintance with George and Cindy. Said she felt the Anthony’s had brainwashed her into thinking Caylee was kidnapped by Z. Gonzales. She had lots of photographs she had taken at J. Blanchard Park and off Suburban Drive. Tried to give them to the Anthonys and also called Jose Baez to give them to him. He was rude to her and hung up on he
- Deceased crime blogger who communicated with Cindy Anthony through phone and email. He became friends and was a supporter of hers at first. He later changed his mind about her. Sean informed investigators that Cindy suspected that Casey did something with her granddaughter. She told this to him on December 2nd–before Caylee’s remains were discovered.
- Cindy told Sean Casey was a sociopath.
- “I spoke with [Cindy Anthony] it was the first time that she agreed that she actually really believed that her [Casey Anthony] actually did something to Caylee,” Krause told Orange County investigator Cpl. Yuri Melich.
- Sean said that Cindy later took back her statement but wouldn’t tell him why.He said that she also sent him emails from her yahoo account saying she had a scoop for his crime blog. She later denied ever sending that email or other emails to him.
- Detectives also asked Krause about the man who called himself Todd Black. (He was the spokesman for Anthony Baez. Black had contacted Sean and told him the FBI forensic’s tests were inaccurate.
- Universal studios event planning team
- work records for Casey Anthony, Jeffrey D. Hopkins and Michael D. Hamilton
DOCUMENTS RELEASED MAY 1, 2009
March 10, 2009
saying Jose Baez is her attorney only–she has not signed any rights to Caylee’s or her story over to him.
DOCUMENTS RELEASED MARCH 5, 2009
this link doesn’t include actual photos
images that are difficult to see
ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ GONZALES DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER SUIT AGAINST CASEY ANTHONY
DOCUMENTS RELEASED FEBRUARY 18, 2009
- Includes description of the remains as found, description of Annie’s interview,
- description of demeaner of Anthonys when LE came back with search warrant after body was found.
- Description of Roy Kronk’s timeline.
- Includes description and lists of what was recovered from crime site. (the paver is in this document pg 43 and and 48)
includes diary pages and photo of heart stickers
REVISED WITNESS LIST FOR PROSECUTION RELEASED JAN 26, 2009
CAYLEE ANTHONY TRUST FUND AGREEMENT
PHOTOS RELEASED DECEMBER 18, 2008 OF THE CRIME SCENE WHERE BODY WAS FOUND
KIOMARIE CRUZ LE INTERVIEW
(CASEY’S CHILDHOOD FRIEND THAT TOLD LE ABOUT THE AREA BODY WAS FOUND)
JAILHOUSE VIDEOS RELEASED DECEMBER 4, 2008
Patrick Bourgiouse (this one has been released previously, because I had already seen it somewhere)
George & Cindy Part 1, morning, July 25
George & Cindy Part 2, morning, July 25
George & Cindy, Part 1, afternoon, July 25
George & Cindy, Part 2, afternoon, July 25
Lee Anthony, July 28, Part 1
Lee Anthony, July 28, Part 2
George & Cindy, July 30, part 1
George & Cindy, July 30, part 2
George, August 3, part 1
George, August 3, part 2
DOCUMENTS RELEASED NOVEMBER 26, 2008
notebook casey wrote “Casey Lazzaro” in over and over
OCSO affidavit forms
Incident report of Sawgrass Apt
OCSO Forensics crime scene investigation
Morales computer forensic report
HP computer report
Computer Forensics Reports
Exam report, contacts phone #’s
Text messages to Casey Anthony’s cell 7/12/08 thru 7/17/08
other texts and incoming calls on Casey’s cell
cell phone records
handwritten letter to Yuri Melich from Shirley Plesea, Cindy’s mother
emails between Shirley Plesea and her sister
Emails between Rick and Cindy
Emails between Rick Plesea and Cindy and Rick Plesea and Yuri Melich. Other emails and Rick Plesea talking on blogs and topix
Rick Plesea emails and Topix comments,
Lois Peter statement to police and emails from Casey to Dakota,
Dante Salati interview with Sgt. Allen September 8, 2008
Wanda Wery statement about seeing Caylee in an airport.
GEORGE ANTHONY FBI INTERVIEWS Nov 21, 2008
7 videos linked here (they’re at the bottom of the post)
CINDY ANTHONY FBI INTERVIEWS Nov 22, 2008
4 videos linked here (they’re at the bottom of the post)